On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:42:16 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Kings have always sacrificed their pawns, and generally their pawns > go > willingingly because they have been convinced it is the noble thing to > do.
Dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori. They go willingly, and once there, there's no way back. http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/owen1.html John > Tom C. > > >> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> >> Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times >> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:08:03 -0500 >> >> Public television is running a new World War II series produced by Ken >> Burns (who produced the award winning US Civil War monograph). It has >> been 10 hours of TV this week, tracing people in 4 US cities and their >> experiences with the war - Waterbury, Conneticut - Sacramento, >> California - a small town in rural Minnesota - another town in >> Lousiana or Alabama. The picture of life in those times makes our >> times look cynical and self absorbed. >> >> It is propaganda to use the flag raising picture to try and make >> people buy War Bonds and dig deeper to support the cause. >> It is not propaganda to try and make those sacrificing at home see >> some glimmer of hope and share in a national pride for their >> sacrifices. >> Propaganda to me is about manipulating the national sentiment to >> support bad causes. I know others will differ with me on this. >> >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> On 9/28/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Bob Sullivan" >> > Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times >> > >> > >> > > Bill and Tom, >> > > >> > > What is a propaganda photo? >> > > The flag raising at Iwo Jima was an inspirational moment by design. >> > > It was a premature 'celebration' of victory, 2 days into a grim 30 >> day >> > > battle. >> > > The flag was raised to inspire those fighting on the island below. >> > > >> > > The photo took on a propaganda aura based on how the media handled >> it, >> > > the events themselves (a difficult battle), and the qualities of the >> > > photo itself. The US government used the photo as the centerpiece >> of >> > > a massive War Bond drive - the kind of promotional campaign that >> would >> > > make Nike look like a lightweight in comparison today. (Imagine >> > > financing Vietnam from 'donations' to War Bonds instead of deficit >> > > spending!) >> > > >> > > Propaganda is a loaded word. >> > >> > Technically, it is information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread >> widely >> > to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc, >> nothing >> > more, nothing less. >> > >> > I'm guessing that had the Vietnam war more going for it than pocket >> pool >> > ideology, it would have been more popular, I am sure. >> > >> > William Robb >> > >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > PDML@pdml.net >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
