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to 
the smtp server, but here it is.

And while I was typing this a pop up from AVG popped up saying,
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I think my computer is haunted.


graywolf wrote:
> The problem is that you (plural) seem to think propaganda is necessarily
> negative. Do you think the US did not have a doctrine of winning the war. Do 
> you
> think they thought they had pacified I island when the photo proclaiming a
> victory was made? Do you think that the US used the photo purely as a news 
> photo
> with no intention of rousing a positive response from the populace? If so I 
> have
> an island in the Hudson River to sell you, cheap.
> 
> 
> propaganda
> 
> propaganda (pròp´e-gàn´de) noun
> 1.    The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information
> reflecting the views and interests of those people advocating such a doctrine 
> or
> cause.
> 2.    Material disseminated by the advocates of a doctrine or cause: the 
> selected
> truths, exaggerations, and lies of wartime propaganda.
> 3.     Propaganda. Roman Catholic Church. A division of the Roman Curia that 
> has
> authority in the matter of preaching the gospel, of establishing the Church in
> non-Christian countries, and of administering Church missions in territories
> where there is no properly organized hierarchy.
> 
>   [New Latin, short for Sacra Congregâtio dê Propagandâ Fide, Sacred
> Congregation for Propagating the Faith (established 1622), from ablative
> feminine gerundive of Latin propâgâre, to propagate. See propagate.]
> - prop´agan´dism noun
> - prop´agan´dist noun
> - prop´agandis´tic adjective
> - prop´agandis´tically adverb
> 
> The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition
> copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from
> INSO Corporation; further reproduction and distribution restricted in 
> accordance
> with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved.
> 
> Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> Bill and Tom,
>>
>> What is a propaganda photo?
>> The flag raising at Iwo Jima was an inspirational moment by design.
>> It was a premature 'celebration' of victory, 2 days into a grim 30 day 
>> battle.
>> The flag was raised to inspire those fighting on the island below.
>>
>> The photo took on a propaganda aura based on how the media handled it,
>> the events themselves (a difficult battle), and the qualities of the
>> photo itself.  The US government used the photo as the centerpiece of
>> a massive War Bond drive - the kind of promotional campaign that would
>> make Nike look like a lightweight in comparison today.  (Imagine
>> financing Vietnam from 'donations' to War Bonds instead of deficit
>> spending!)
>>
>> Propaganda is a loaded word.
>>
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>>
>> On 9/27/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "graywolf"
>>> Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times
>>>
>>>
>>>> If the Iwo Jima photo was taken in a studio in California is it an any
>>>> less
>>>> powerful image? Would it have less meaning to a people at war? It is easy
>>>> to sit
>>>> in our comfortable living rooms decades later and talk about it as if it
>>>> were
>>>> some kind of conspiracy, but it was a powerful wartime propaganda photo
>>>> regardless of when and where and how it was taken.
>>> We should compare notes to see how many people called you out for listing
>>> that photo as propoganda compared to me.
>>>
>>> William Robb
>>>
>>>
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