Hello Bill,

I could buy a Pentax KX with 50mm/1.7 Pentax M lens. It is too good a camera.
What a lens. Also could not overcome my temptation to buy a Pentax K1000. So
bought that also. What zoom lens do you suggest for my K1000 and KX. Wondering
why pentax stopped making such cameras?

Regards

Swades Das

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From:   Peifer, William [OCDUS] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:53 PM
To:     'swades Das'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:        RE: K1000 vs KM

Hi Swades,

The KX has two original features not found on the KM: (i) mirror lock-up,
and (ii) aperture read-out (in the viewfinder window).  A variant of the KX
-- the KX MOT -- accepted a motor drive.  I've never seen one of these, so
I'm not sure what they'd run used.  I believe I read somewhere that the KX
had the brightest viewfinder image of the three all-manual bodies in the K
series.  There's a KX on eBay right now, including a K 55/1.8 lens, ending
in about 13 hours as I'm writing this note.  Currently at USD $86, with 14
bids.  Might end up going for a final bid of perhaps $140??



Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY

> -----Original Message-----
> From: swades Das [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:25 PM
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Cc:   'Peifer, William [OCDUS]'
> Subject:      RE: K1000 vs KM
>
> Hi Peifer,
>
> Thanks for so quick answer. I find on Internet  that there is also Pentax
> KX. Is KX and KM same? Which one is preferred KM or KX. Thanks in Advance.
>
> Regards
>
> Swades
> New Delhi, India
>
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Swades Das wrote:
> How good is KM compared to K1000. Is KM available in used market
> and what will be appox price?

Hi Swades,

I own both of these, and I bought them both as used cameras off of eBay last
year.  I was originally going to buy just the K1000 as an all-manual,
battery-free body primarily for long-exposure astrophotography.  The KM body
showed up on eBay a couple weeks later, after I had purchased the K1000.
The price was so good, I simply had to have it as well!  :-)  I now find
that I tend to use the KM more frequently than the K1000.  Two features the
KM has that the K1000 does not are (i) a self-timer and (ii) a
depth-of-field preview button.  (These are VERY useful features, by the
way.)  Other than that, the bodies are comparable.

Can't tell you much about current pricing, other than what they seem to be
running on eBay.  I see that our own Collin Brendemuehl just got a real
steal on a KM body, including a K-to-S converter, a 2X teleconverter, a set
of screw-mount extension tubes, and an old Vivitar flash.  See

Buy-It-Now price of USD $60!!  Collin, I hate you.  :-)  Just kidding of
course!  More typical recent prices for a complete KM camera (body and lens)
seem to be around USD $90.

There are a couple recent eBay listings for KM's which did not sell because
the reserve price was not met.  One of these is stated to be an
original-owner body (lens not included) with a stated reserve of $100.
(Interestingly, the buyer appears to have "borrowed" a large chunk of text
from Mark Robert's recent eBay listing for a KM body and SMC-K 50/1.4 lens,
for which Mark ultimately got a high bid of $175).  It appears to be in
excellent cosmetic shape, but the seller states that the light meter does
not appear to be functional.  He believes this may simply be due to an
exhausted battery.  Perhaps you could contact him through eBay's e-mail
feature (if you're a registered eBay user) and inquire if he'd still be
willing to sell.  If it's only a bad battery, then maybe $100 is not too bad
a price?  If it's something other than the battery, I think $100 is perhaps
too high.  Maybe he'd be willing to offer some sort of guarantee, then
refund the purchase price (less shipping) if the camera requires more than
just a new battery.  It's worth asking the question, anyway.  You'd also
need to see if the seller is willing to ship internationally.  See the
listing at:


Another KM which failed to meet reserve is a black model (a bit unusual).
This one includes an SMC-M 50/2 lens.  It is stated to be in perfect working
order, no dents or dings, but noticeable brassing and blistering of paint.
Seller's e-mail address appears to be the same as his eBay account name, so
you could e-mail this seller directly and inquire about the camera.  I'm not
sure if I'd be willing to pay $100 for this one, but maybe $60 to $75?  He
offers a thirty-day inspection period.  See the listing at:


Hope this helps.

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
Swades Das wrote:
> How good is KM compared to K1000. Is KM available in used market
> and what will be appox price?

Hi Swades,

I own both of these, and I bought them both as used cameras off of eBay
last year.  I was originally going to buy just the K1000 as an
all-manual, battery-free body primarily for long-exposure
astrophotography.  The KM body showed up on eBay a couple weeks later,
after I had purchased the K1000.  The price was so good, I simply had to
have it as well!  :-)  I now find that I tend to use the KM more
frequently than the K1000.  Two features the KM has that the K1000 does
not are (i) a self-timer and (ii) a depth-of-field preview button. 
(These are VERY useful features, by the way.)  Other than that, the
bodies are comparable.

Can't tell you much about current pricing, other than what they seem to
be running on eBay.  I see that our own Collin Brendemuehl just got a
real steal on a KM body, including a K-to-S converter, a 2X
teleconverter, a set of screw-mount extension tubes, and an old Vivitar
flash.  See http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=125203
8978.  Buy-It-Now price of USD $60!!  Collin, I hate you.  :-)  Just
kidding of course!  More typical recent prices for a complete KM camera
(body and lens) seem to be around USD $90.

There are a couple recent eBay listings for KM's which did not sell
because the reserve price was not met.  One of these is stated to be an
original-owner body (lens not included) with a stated reserve of $100. 
(Interestingly, the buyer appears to have "borrowed" a large chunk of
text from Mark Robert's recent eBay listing for a KM body and SMC-K
50/1.4 lens, for which Mark ultimately got a high bid of $175).  It
appears to be in excellent cosmetic shape, but the seller states that the
light meter does not appear to be functional.  He believes this may
simply be due to an exhausted battery.  Perhaps you could contact him
through eBay's e-mail feature (if you're a registered eBay user) and
inquire if he'd still be willing to sell.  If it's only a bad battery,
then maybe $100 is not too bad a price?  If it's something other than the
battery, I think $100 is perhaps too high.  Maybe he'd be willing to
offer some sort of guarantee, then refund the purchase price (less
shipping) if the camera requires more than just a new battery.  It's
worth asking the question, anyway.  You'd also need to see if the seller
is willing to ship internationally.  See the listing at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=124434 5710.

Another KM which failed to meet reserve is a black model (a bit
unusual).  This one includes an SMC-M 50/2 lens.  It is stated to be in
perfect working order, no dents or dings, but noticeable brassing and
blistering of paint.  Seller's e-mail address appears to be the same as
his eBay account name, so you could e-mail this seller directly and
inquire about the camera.  I'm not sure if I'd be willing to pay $100 for
this one, but maybe $60 to $75?  He offers a thirty-day inspection
period.  See the listing at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=125026 3534

Hope this helps.

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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