Hi Jan,

I must say that I hardly believe that!
I'd like to trust you, but... there are clearly two light
sources that light the grapes (the natural light shadows are
longer and lighter that the black shadows that appear to be the
consequence of a closer light). There is no other way I can
think unless there was a surface that reflected the sun light
(but the result wouldn't have been the same).

Are you 100% sure?!

Gianfranco

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jan van Wijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: Awfully late PUG comments: Matamoros, Lahuerta, van
Wijk


> Thanks for the comment Gianfranco,
> 
> But ....  There was no flash used in this shot at all ...
> It is the sun only, still quite low, early in the morning.
> 
> Regards, JvW
> 
> 
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:43:19 -0800 (PST), Gianfranco Irlanda
wrote:
> 
> >
> >" Sunlit Grapes at Daybreak " by  Jan van Wijk;
> >If I must be honest, I think there is too much flash aid in
this
> >shot. The idea, the natural light, the composition are all
good,
> >but there is no good merging between the sunlight and the
> >flashlight. I know, it's not always easy to accomplish a good
> >fill-in, and I can say that I'm not always good in that
myself,
> >but the flash induced shadows are really too dark and a bit
> >disturbing. I assume you were holding the camera with the
flash
> >on the right (right hand down). I suggest you to try to hold
it
> >with the flash on the side opposite to the main light, next
> >time.
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