Hi Cristine, I didn't want to sound negative with my message and I indeed didn't use the word 'happy' adequately. Please, see my reply to Boris for further explanation.
Regarding the 'bloody fights', I mentioned its current absence as a positive consequence of the 'list foucus shift', as opposite to 'no more guru's anticipating future features...' that for me is a negative consequence of the shift. So, like you, I don't find it entertaining at all. Ah, and I really celebrate your quickly adaptation to the list. Believe it or not, for me it has been one of the major reasons to stay with Pentax !! Regards, Jaume ----- Mensaje original ---- De: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Enviado: jueves, 29 de mayo, 2008 6:54:51 Asunto: Re: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels) From: "Jaume Lahuerta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >People already happy with their equipment? Sounds good but I don't fully >agree...I would say resigned instead of happy. Jaume: No doubt you know it's a little dangerous to speak for other people. For the record, I'm extremely happy (not resigned) with my Pentax equipment. >The consequence is that thread about future features and/or complaints >about present ones are no longer popular, and newcomers that still have >faith in that their brand will be able to fight in the premier league look >for othe places to keep dreaming. Yes, it's lots of fun to spend time dreaming about future camera features, and I even do this from time to time, but time spent dreaming about the perfect camera needs to be tempered with reality--the reality of the features that are included in the camera one currently owns (can aford to own) and what one can do with those features to make the best pictures possible. For me, the camera is a wonderous tool merging art and science--and I think Pentax equipment has produced some beautiful photography. Check out the Pentax Photo Gallery. I know there have been complaints about the voting et al, but a good portion of the stuff that has been accepted into the gallery is beautiful--and a good many of the folks on this list have made beautiful pictures that have been accepted into the gallery--despite the camera feature complaints. I'm not suggesting that photography is only about the final image: in my view, it's not. Photography is, in equal measure, about the camera/equipment and the photographer's technique to produce a beautiful final image--thus, I'm glad this list talks, complains, dreams about old and future Pentax equipment as well as post PESOs & GESOs (and WRT the OTs: do you really expect all humans to stay on-topic all the time. I've never met a human being like that.) If it was only about the equipment, I probably wouldn't have subscribed last December--I am a newcomer to the list. As to faith about Pentax being "able to fight in the premier league", well, the good common sense I find on this list helps to sustain my faith in Pentax. >The 'negative' side is that the list may be seen as a 'closed' group of >friends, with lots of private jokes and not very prone to orientate and >convince new pentaxians that they have made the right choice (I would say >that there are far less introductions and 'novice' questions that we used >to have). And it is a pitty since I don't think that this is true at all >but that people here is really helpful. I don't view this list as a "closed group." Instead, I recognize that the folks on this list have been friends for many years, and any newbie is going to be the new kid on the block when they first subscribe. And I've found everyone welcoming and helpful. I do, however, don't ask as many novice questions as I'd like because if I asked every single question I wanted to ask I would present myself as such a pest ;-). I do recognize people have limits to their degrees of helpfulness and politeness. > No more bloody fights I'm sure those fights had some kind of entertainment value for you, but for myself, I don't find them necessary. Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. ______________________________________________ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
