Well, i am taking the same type of photos as the competition, except
most of the onsite companies shot a hell of a lot more of each rider.
Having said that, they stil only get 3-4 out of , say 50 shots of the
rider actually doing the jump or test or what have you.

There clients think they are getting a bargin at $75 for a show CD.
Look at all my photos i get. Yes but why would you want 20 of your
back end going over a jump.

Difficult to explain.

I was one of two people 7 years ago, doing on site digital work. Even
then, sales were not great, but i did make a bit of a profit each
time.

I talked to another shooter this weekend, who has been doing this as a
pro, since 1988, and he has seen his profit decline drastically. He
also does a lot of "commercial" work as well, and that is keeping him
going.

Here is his site. I don't see my shots any different or presented
differently as his, and he is a main stream shooter.

www.shootphoto.ca

He uses CS to make his pages, i use Breeze Browser Pro.

I think it boils down to repation. Same riders, same jumps, same back
drops, same horses.

I have sold to the same people for all these years, and unless i get
an outstanding shot, or they get a new horse, its same ol, same ol.

Well, some one else can take over, spend $1600 and do a pro web
page(mine is home built, but you see that)and hopefully they do
better.

Life goes on.

Dave

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Maxime Thériault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can understand your feelings, and I reckon having far less knowledge in
> this field than you more than likely have.
>
> But.. And it's not meant to be taken in a mean way, but I've looked at your
> pictures collection and have to say that it's a far shot from the
> 'professional equestrian photogs' in the way they are both presented
> (website) and taken (The photos themselves). It's not to say that your
> pictures are bad per see, but you need to know where your competition is at
> and compete on the same level if you want an income that is above that of an
> amateur / 'mom with DSLR' level. The market, ANY specialty market, are
> awfully hard to penetrate and alas that is how that field is.
>
> That's about as far as my 'knowledge' goes, and like I said you probably
> know more than I do, and your business plan was probably taking this into
> account etc.
>
> I do wish you luck and fortune in any decision you take.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> David J Brooks
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:17 PM
> To: Pentax Discuss
> Subject: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point
>
> Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last for
> me.
>
> I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using
> a calculator instead of
> doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i
> went to web based sales only.
>
> 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year
> 2006 $450
> 2007 less than 1K.
> Projected for 2008,  $500-700.00
>
> Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the
> pocket book out.:-)
>
> I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would
> like me to call it quits also.
> I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would
> like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to
> come home.:-)
> Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour.
>
> I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the
> horse shoe on to the next eager beaver
> that has started up an equestrian photo business.
>
> Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones.
>
> I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with
> Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web.
>
> It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-)
>
> Dave
>
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