On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:31:49 -0500, "Walter Hamler"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I have seen these Starfighters twice now this year. The amazing thing
> I heard about them is that they are brand new. Made in 2006. It seems
> that Canada is the only country still licensed to make the
> Starfighter.


Interesting.  Who on earth do they sell them to?

If memory serves (and that's a bit of a worry these days) I think
Australia had the F104 among its short-listed Sabre replacements back in
the early 60s.  Eventually we went for the Mirage instead.



Cheers

Brian

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/



> There is another team of Starfighter pilots, both retired Air Force
> Generals I believe, who have restored two older versions.
> I had a chance several years ago at Oshkosh to hear General Chuck
> Yeager talk about his experience with the F-104. He is the one who set
> an altitude record with it back in the 70's of almost 120,000 feet. Of
> course, it did have an extra rocket engine strapped on! He said the
> biggest problem with the German versions was the engines they put in
> them. They had a much higher thrust and the compressor blades kept
> shattering resulting in cutting the plane in half. If that happened at
> low altitude you don't have much time to punch out!  The other thing I
> never understood about the German 104's.... you could fly from one end
> of the country to the other (East/West back then) in less than a few
> minutes!
> 
> Walt
> 
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:24 AM, frank theriault
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >>> No. 6 is my favourite.  I always thought that the F104 was a beautiful
> >>> piece of machinery.
> >>
> >> I've always loved Starfighters, too.  I always thought they were just
> >> so cool and sleek looking - even if they had a propensity to fall from
> >> the sky every so often.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> frank
> >
> > Note that's a CF-104 being flown by Starfighters in that shot.
> >
> > And there's nothing unsafe about the Starfighter, it was a superb
> > high-altitude interceptor and was quite safe in that role. The problem
> > was the crazy idea that the Canadians and Germans had of using the
> > things as low-level strike platforms that caused most of the crashes.
> > heck, the CF-104's were air-to-ground only (and actually, Nuke-only
> > until 1972) having no air-to-air capability whatsoever. We shoulda
> > bought F-105's instead.
> >
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