If he offered them here first we wouldn't be missing them either and it would just be a transaction between friends. As it is it is sort of a case where he is either using the knowledgeable PDML members to drive the price up for non-PDML auction buyers or using the non-members to drive the price up to us his supposed friends. Here is an extreme but true example. The current Sports Car Club of America has about 50K members. In the late 1940's when it was started as a club to promote the ownership and sport of competing with real sports cars they had a rule that seems a little snobby today. To wit the membership rule was that if you owned a sports car and decided to sell it, if you didn't offer it to the club members first it was grounds to have your membership revoked. And they actually did things like that. I seem to remember that a few years ago we adopted some rule where you had to put the words "for sale" in the subject line so that if people wanted to filter those messages out they could. Did we drop that rule or something? Kent Gittings
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frits J. Wüthrich Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale I fail to see what the problem is to promote ones auctions on PDML. At least it gives the PDML members awareness of the items that otherwise might have been missed. Frits Wüthrich frank theriault wrote: > I really don't see what the big deal (no pun intended) is. I > tend to agree with > the spirit of your post, Kent, but if someone wants to give is a > list of their > current eBay auctions, I would guess that Fridays is as good a > day as any. If > there's anything of interest, I may look at the auction, but > probably won't bid, > since there aren't very many real bargains on eBay these days anyway. > > I have to admit that I would hold someone who offers items to > list members only > at a reasonable price in higher regard than someone who simply > lumps us all in > with eBayers at large - you know Pentaxian community and all - > but I certainly > don't think of such actions as sanctionable, and certainly not > worth banishment. > > With up to 200 and sometimes more postings per day, I can easily > delete a few on > Fridays that don't pique my interest for whatever reason. > > My two cents worth... > > regards, and Happy New Years to all, > frank > > Kent Gittings wrote: > > > I hate to say it but I think we should use the same rules for > posting things > > for sale here that we've gone to on the Minolta users list. > That is the only > > acceptable posting of a for sale item is BEFORE you list it on > some auction > > site. If you are going to be a member of a group then there is > no reason for > > you to be allowed to be a member of that group if you are not > going to give > > the group members first crack at something. This is a case of > schilling your > > own items to your friends as far as I'm concerned. Sort of like the case > > where you and your next door neighbor both collect Steuben glass and he > > comes over and says "listen I just put a couple of pieces from > my collection > > I know that you liked down at Fred's Auction house. So why > don't you come > > down and bid on them if you are interested." > > I thought we forbade this kind of thing after discussing it > last year or so. > > This is by far the most cluttered list I belong to. Yes I sell things on > > eBay also. However I always post any Pentax items before I list > them in case > > anybody wants them. On the Minolta list you get one warning and > then you get > > permanently kicked off. I don't mind somebody finding a listing for some > > rare piece of Pentax gear that THEY AREN'T SELLING THEMSELVES! Otherwise > > they are just conning us into bidding their items up as far as I am > > concerned. > > Kent Gittings - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .