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> 2)JCO wrote:
> vvn> Try to find a mint Chinon CM-3 with motordrive. It has a nice finder
> vvn> and is all mechanical with DOF preview by pressing shutter button
> vvn> partially. I have two of these and a CE-3 which is autoexposure.
> vvn> JCO
> Thanks for tip, I was considering some of these. I think either a
> Chinon or another has a manual camera with "spotmeter" reading - a
> very narrow meter?

I am not sure what the metering pattern of the chinon CM3 is because
I dont use TTL metering with it ( or my spotmatics either ) I prefer
sunny F16 or use of my incident meter and then set exposure manually.



> The motordrive/winder would be nice, but I dislike
> the coupling of DOF/METER stopdown with shutter release. I meter far
> less times than I shoot, and that also means that with shutter ready
> for release, I would either have to look through dim finder, thus
> missing the action due to "darkness" maybe, or take longer to press
> the release, because there is additional mechanical leverage to
> stopdown the lens, thuis missing the action again.

I agree it's not ideal but i have found thats it's really easy
to focus first, depress shutter part way, compose, and fire.
Yes the final composition view is at shooting aperture but its
still easy to compose even with the dimmer view unless your
shooting at very small apertures. This is true partly due to
the very bright finder the camera offers. I cant remember if
the stop down/metering occurs or not when using a cable release.

> As I wrote, I
> dislike this style of shutter release, I prefer separate
> metering/stopdown switch, or no meter at all. But I will have a look
> at the chinon/others. They have interesting features.
>
 
Nice thing about the Chinon CM-3 & winder is they are not expensive 
when found, but they are somewhat hard to find. They are much
cheaper than the spotmatic motordrive and more compact. Good
build quality too. Whenever I need to shoot with motor and my
auto aperture SMCT lenses, I use this combo. When I only use the
SMCT 400 and 500 mm lenses which are manual aperture I just
use my MX/Motor with the mount adapter K. The MX has a very 
nice finder too.


> 3)Bob, is the SV finder really so better than the Spotmatics? I could
> easily live without a meter in the camera, I use incident for
> available light anyway, as it isn't fooled as easily as ttl, and 
> outside I can
> take spotmeter or guess the exposure with negs. How about comparing SV
> finder with early K series?
>

I find it hard to believe the SV finder is superior to the SL
or late Spotmatic finders. Also the SV has a crude shutter compared
to the spotmatics ( shorter lifespan too ). 

One option is to have a better screen installed in
the spotmatic. I have a SP1000 that has a split image
rangefinder screen that works great with lenses faster
than say, F5.6.  There is a guy on ebay who does spotmatic screen upgrades
for $60 opening bid.

JCO 
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