On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:45 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

> 2009/12/5 Igor Roshchin <s...@komkon.org>:
>> 
>> It appears to me that K7 is much less forgiving (compared to *ist DS)
>>  with respect to noise in case of underexposed shots.
>> 
>> My osbservation is that a photo shot with K7 at ISO 200 shows
>> considerable noise in the shadows if the exposure is bumped by
>> 0.75-1.00. The noise is at the level that cannot be removed by
>> "Noise Reduction" function in  LR.
>> (DNG, in Lightroom 2.x)
>> 
>> Do you see similar level of noise?
> 
> There are individual differences at work here, Igor. Your
> "considerable" may be entirely passable to the next guy. In my
> personal experience, it's usually quite OK to bump the shadows up one
> stop. I do not use neither sharpening nor NR in LR. That's for
> PS/NoiseNinja.
> 
> An observation from my recent trip was that the Canon guys were very
> much dissatisfied with the NR in LR. They also passed rumors that this
> would be much improved in LR v3.0.
> 
> I think also that Pentax retains a lot more detail in the images at
> the risk looking "noisy" compared to rival brands.
> 
Although shouldn't that be only true of jpegs? I would think that a RAW 
exposure is exactly that. No firmware noise reduction.
Paul
> 
>> Yet another observation that I see is that sharpening (with the
>> same parameters that I used with *ist DS: Radius 0.9 or 1.0, Detail 25)
>> is not as effective. I suspect it might be related to the difference
>> in the pixel size. Any comments and/or practical suggestions on this?
> 
> Use a different sharpening tool? Wait for LR v3?
> 
> I find that I rarely have to do much sharpening with the K-7 unless I
> downsample the image for web.
> 
> 
>> I don't expect that there is any difference between PEF and DNG
>> in this aspect, am I right?
> 
> No idea. Never shot a single PEF with K-7
> 
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