On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Doug Brewer <d...@alphoto.com> wrote:

>OK, if we're going to discuss this, first you have to define what exactly 
>makes a good photograph, without saying "a good photo is not this..." or "a 
>good photo is >not that..."

>Fire when ready.

Thought about in my sleep. :-)

I'll cop out with the following:

We and I may be mixing up the terms art and good in this discussion...
oh well...

There can be be no single answer to the question because photographs
are taken for a variety of reasons. Some photographs are intended as a
form of artistic expression while others may be simply documentary.
Some are documentary of an event, say a party, while others are taken
for more mundane reasons.  I believe some photos are taken for
practically no reason whatsoever - the person has a camera and
therefore is using it (similar to what happens if you give a child a
camera and they mostly, indiscriminately, start walking around
actuating the shutter). (Like Eggleston, IMO, wink)

There's at least two ways of defining good when it's applied to photography:

1. Good because the image fulfills the requirements for which it was taken
2. Good because the image possesses some attributes that make it stand
out in a positive way

Individually we all define good somewhat differently.

It seems to me that invoking/or not an emotional response is not the
whole thing either.  First, one viewer is different from the next, so
will be impacted differently. Second, the viewer may have an emotional
response to the image that has little to do with the merits of the
image itself.

Example 1: I love my baby, so a picture of my baby invokes an
emotional response.
Example 2: I remember the day JFK was shot, so when I see images of
that traumatic event, it invokes an emotional response.

In both examples above the subject matter alone is what may produce a
response.  I would think that a snapshot baby picture or a hastily
taken image documenting an event, likely does not qualify as art
unless it invokes a response for reasons other than the subject matter
itself.

In the GESO I just posted of wide angle portraits.  Are they good or
bad?  Are they art?  I didn't intend them to be art.  Nor would I ever
submit that they are such. Yet, I took them with the sole purpose of
invoking an emotional response (which from what I read is either
amusement or horror). Are they good? IMO, yes, but only in that they
invoked the response I was hoping for).  Are they good because they
possess some other qualities, such as excellent composition, lighting,
exposure control? No.

In the end, I suppose, the only statements I can really make that are
unassailable is "I like that image" or "I think that's a good image".
My thoughts and emotions are my own and require no validation. If
someone disagrees, their opposite statements are just as valid.

As I said, I think the PDML exhibit in Chicago was a far better
collection of images than the Eggleston exhibit. That's my opinion.
For instance I saw nothing artistic or good about the photographs of a
pile of garbage or the black porcelain interior of an oven.

It's probably easier to define a bad photograph as opposed to a good one.

A bad photograph is one that a person sees once and never cares to
look at again.

Tom C.

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