On 6/1/2010 2:16 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2010-06-01 08:40 , P. J. Alling wrote:
On 6/1/2010 5:54 AM, steve harley wrote:
that stereotype was mostly generated by Apple marketing -- playing to
people's insecurities about whatever computer they were using

I guess it worked, when I more or less decided to join the PC
revolution, Microsoft and IBM made it relatively easy for me to learn
enough to be an expert, (at least compared to my clients), Apple not so
much.

so that was what, 25 years ago? i have met a lot of people who are proud of their DOS/Windows fu; i'm proud of my Unix fu from 30 years ago, and use it all the time today on Macs & Linux; but fu is fu -- there's a lot to mystify the masses on every operating system


I learned Unix Fu as well, but haven't had to use it in some time. BASH was my shell of choice by the way, and really never got out of the Grasshopper stage. When I started programming for Windows, even in the bad old days, MS made it easier to put controls where you wanted them on a form, (and clients as well as managers really wanted to see those gray boxes not move around, something that was difficult with X, kind of like JAVA when it originally came out change window size, and controls might migrate in unexpected ways), of course some of the problems with message loops were just bizarre...

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