How far should tolerance of intolerance extend?
From: Steven Desjardins
I'm never happy to see anyone just go away. Tolerance extends in many
directions. We're never stronger for losing someone, even if that
strength is the result of patience on our part. Maybe I'm sensitive
to this because I can have quite a bad temper and have said things on
occasion that I deeply regret later. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:12 PM,
paul stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
On Oct 23, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
I certainly don't want to see Bill go away. ?I can deal just
fine with his directness/bluntness, etc., and many times it
adds to a discussion.
I don't want to see him go away either. But his language isn't
just direct, it's frequently abusive. There's no excusing his
attack on Godfrey. Godfrey and I have gone toe-to-toe on more
than one occasion, but we managed to do it without being
disgusting and personally abusive.
Bill has responded to me in an ugly fashion on more than one
occasion when I disagreed with him , and I've called him out on
it every time.In response, he grows even more vile. Yes, I can be
aggressive, but I don't resort to personal attacks. To do so is
childish and totally unacceptable.
?There are those that Bill never abuses, even when they disagree
with him, apparently they have gained his favor. That's fine. But
I'm not going to tolerate his nastiness, and I don't think anyone
else should have to either. If he wants to behave like an adult,
he should come back. Otherwise, he should disappear. Paul
?As I said, the only problem here was the use of the word
"faggot". ? It was an inappropriate choice of word and
Paul's comparison to the use of "nigger: was accurate. ?If
someone referred to a person of color as a "nigger" in the
heat of an argument then people would be appalled and the
orginal argument would become moot. This has nothing to do
with strong opinions or heated responses. ?It about the use
of a word that has moved beyond its casual use and has become
a vile pejorative in the eyes of many. ?Words change their
connotations and sometimes misunderstandings occur during
the transition period.
"> Come on Bill - that would mean I will overtake you in
longevity here -
now that's really gotta hurt ?;-)
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