the funnel explanation isn't that bad really - if you look at the
definition of the circle of confusion (sounds kind of like a secret
round table for politicians) on this page
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/depth-of-field.htm (close
the prompt to register for a newsletter) you'll find that DOF comes
from a much similar effect - I'm at a bit of a loss for a better
imagebut the general idea is that closing the aperture cuts out the
stray rays so to say
dang... tell them that after a while it becomes intuitive knowledge
and you're too deeply involved in your art to explain it to an
outsider

2010/12/3 Walter Gilbert <ldott...@gmail.com>:
>    Thanks, Ecke ... that will be helpful down the road, no doubt.
>
> I guess what I'm looking for is a combination of both.  Nothing overly
> scientific -- like down to the atomic level, or anything.
>
> Maybe if I can explain the way I've grasped the concept of the effect of
> aperture size on depth of field:  I see it as analogous to pouring sand
> through a funnel.  If you use a funnel with a larger spout, the sand is
> going to pile up on the surface underneath it.  Whereas, if you use a funnel
> with a narrow spout, the sand will spread out on the surface beneath it.
>  That's how I view light passing through a larger or smaller aperture as it
> relates to the focus -- which, as far as I know, is completely false.
>
> If I could find something that gives a technical explanation, perhaps
> formulas, and then an analogy to help it all sink in, it would help me a
> great deal.  I mostly don't want to sound like an complete idiot when I go
> about explaining what I'm doing.  :-)
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Walt
>
> On 12/2/2010 6:24 PM, eckinator wrote:
>>
>> Roman posted this link a while ago and I find it quite useful for
>> doing the math. Is it that or are you interested in the underlying
>> logic?
>> http://roman.blakout.net/?dof
>> HTH Ecke
>>
>> 2010/12/3 Walter Gilbert<ldott...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>> Being not particularly mathematically inclined (to put it very
>>> charitably),
>>> I was wondering if any of you could point me toward a sort of online
>>> idiot's
>>> guide to understanding and calculating exposure values, depth of field,
>>> and
>>> other basics along those lines.  I figure having at least a loose grasp
>>> on
>>> details of that nature might be helpful as I dip a toe into the world of
>>> analog.
>>>
>>> I've posted an entry on my photo blog concerning some of the basics that
>>> I'm
>>> already familiar with, and plan to chart my progress as I go along.
>>>  Granted, what I've written is geared toward people who know even less
>>> about
>>> photography than I do (as hard to conceive as that may be), but it can be
>>> found here:
>>>
>>> http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/putting-myself-through-the-old-school
>>>
>>> It's a first baby step on a long journey, but I'd like to document it as
>>> I
>>> go along, and share it with anyone who might be interested.  So,
>>> essentially, I do understand the stuff they probably teach you in the
>>> first
>>> week of Introduction to Photography 101 -- but largely on an intuitive,
>>> practical level.  Are there any resources on the web where a simpleton
>>> can
>>> go to familiarize himself with those principles on a more technical
>>> level?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
>>>
>>> -- Walt
>>>
>>>
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