Thanks, Jack. I think I prefer the soft focus as well. Now, we'll
just see how *they* feel about it.
And thanks for all the pointers. I feel a little better about
submitting the image that way -- thanks to the relatively small maximum
upload size.
-- Walt
On 12/8/2010 4:25 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Believe I prefer the "softened focus."
I've never hesitated to clone at will for any use including submission to the
PPG. Drastic element manipulation would give me pause.
Jack
--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbert<ldott...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Walter Gilbert<ldott...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"<pdml@pdml.net>
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 1:44 PM
I don't think they allow any
sort of cloning in the images, and only
minor filter effects -- and not being adept at cloning at
all, would
most likely make a complete hash of it anyway. :-)
I've done up a couple of versions both resized to the
600-pixel height
required for submission:
Crop with plain focus: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244452247/
Crop with softened focus:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244451549/
Any thoughts?
-- Walt
On 12/8/2010 3:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Think I'd try cloning that dominant leaf/branch coming
in just below the ULC. Completely, if you find it readily
doable. If not, just send it. :)
Jack
--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbert<ldott...@gmail.com>
wrote:
From: Walter Gilbert<ldott...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"<pdml@pdml.net>
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 1:19 PM
Oh, I agree that the butterfly
is the real strength of the image. I
was just being a bit facetious about the busy-ness
of the
background.
In doing the crop, when I try to lop off a bit on
the
right, it seems to
have the unfortunate effect of accentuating the
fan leaf
that extends
down from the upper-left side, which looks pretty
distracting to me.
The biggest part of the problem is that it extends
so far
down into the
frame that it's tough to get around without
turning it into
an
overly-severe crop.
Also, I'm hesitant to do much more with it as it
was among
my earlier
shots and I wasn't vigilant about keeping my
original
images back then.
So, unfortunately, that's the highest resolution
version
copy I have --
1600 pixels long-side. I hate to give up
much more
resolution than
that. At this point, I'm inclined to submit
it as-is,
and if it gets
rejected, do a little cropping and maybe do a
little
graduated softening
of focus around the edges to obscure that part of
the fan
leaf and see
if that'll give it a boost.
Idunno ... what do you think?
-- Walt
On 12/8/2010 2:33 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Walt, I think the strength of the image is the
black
butterfly.
I might do some cropping, especially on the
right
side.
Jack
--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbert<ldott...@gmail.com>
wrote:
From: Walter Gilbert<ldott...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in
Respite
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"<pdml@pdml.net>
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 12:28
PM
Thanks, Jack.
I think you hit upon why I was iffy on
that shot.
It's not so much the
lack of vividness, but the fact that the
butterfly
itself
is somewhat
bland in comparison to the mimosa
tree. Hmm
... come
to think of it,
maybe I should have named it "Mimosa Tree
with a
Butterfly
on it".
-- Walt
On 12/8/2010 2:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
The PPG offerings continue to include
an
extremely
large number of butterflies. Such a number
tends
to numb the
voter to the point of being difficult to
overcome,
thus
placing such images at somewhat of a
disadvantage.(?)
This image, however, I feel is unique
enough
to have a
good chance at making it in. Even though
there it
rather
more going on in the background than it
would
really need,
I'd enter it.
Jack<yes>
--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter
Gilbert<ldott...@gmail.com>
wrote:
From: Walter Gilbert<ldott...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail
in
Respite
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail
List"<pdml@pdml.net>
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010,
11:45
AM
Oops ... forgot
the deets:
K-x, Asahi Takumar 135/2.5, ISO
200,
1/320,
Aperture
priority, unknown aperture
setting.
On 12/8/2010 1:38 PM, Walter
Gilbert
wrote:
Hi
all,
Here's another butterfly shot
I'm
considering
submitting to the PPG and thought
I'd get
some
opinions on
beforehand. I'm just a tad
"iffy" on
it, as
it just
doesn't strike me as particularly
vivid
--
something I'm
partial to in my butterfly
images.
Of
course, it's a
matter of taste -- which is why I
thought
I'd get
input from
the list. Anyway, here it
is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244166815/#/
Comments, critiques,
suggestions, and
gift
certificates from KEH eagerly
accepted.
-- Walt
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