On Dec 19, 2010, at 4:59 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

> no, the way the term "full frame" is actually
> used in todays nomenclature is 24x36 sensor
> and lenses.

I know how it's used. I haven't been dead for the last seven years. That 
doesn't make it any less ridiculous.


> You can mean it to whatever you
> want but its not anything but 24x36 at this
> point in time technology wise. BTW, I want
> Pentax to do a FF dslr, do you know what I
> mean? I think you do.
> 

I once did. I don't any more. The K-5 is more than adequate, and the equal of 
some 24 x 36 camera.
Paul

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul
> Stenquist
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way
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> "Full frame" is a bit of silliness. It's irrelevant. Is a 645 camera "double
> frame?" There are many sensor sizes. All of them are full. Paul On Dec 19,
> 2010, at 4:24 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> 
>> In my opinion, the modern DSLR usage of the term "full frame" means 
>> cameras and lenses designed for 24x36mm sensors. It doesn't mean all 
>> the various formats out there are full frame just because the lens 
>> fits and covers whatever non 24x36mm frame size is being used. Pentax 
>> DA lenses are not "full frame" lenses in the context of todays gear.
>> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf 
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>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:00 AM
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>> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way
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>> On 12/19/2010 2:11 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
>>> Then why worry about the lens frame? A lens designed for APS-C will
>>> outperform one designed for 24 x 36. (They're both full frame. Just 
>>> different frames.) Paul
>> 
>> I opine (may be wrong, but that's my right) that some 24x36 designed
>> lenses outperform some 18x24 ones. In particular, some Sigma EX 24x36 
>> lenses show impressive degree of correction of geometric distortions. 
>> For my kind of shooting it makes them particularly attractive given 
>> their price tag.
>> 
>> You're however absolutely right that there are no "partial" frame 
>> lenses
>> here. Unless of course, we're speaking of circular fish eyes /grin/.
>> 
>> Boris
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