Both perhaps?

From: Steven Desjardins
CO2 or economics? 2011/1/31 Ralf R. Radermacher <fotor...@gmx.de>:
> Eric Weir <eew...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Curious about all the shots of abandoned industrial sites.
>
> Most of these are coal mines in the Ruhr region of Western Germany.
> Under EU rules, the German government is no longer allowed to subsidize
> coal mining.
>
> Ralf


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