On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:31 AM, mike wilson wrote:

> On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote:
>> the
>> dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions
> 
> I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow humans less 
> equitably.  Being promoted by the corn-fed fascist who recently awarded the 
> tax breaks that precipitated his state's budget crisis seems to be merely 
> icing on the cake.
> 

You obviously haven't been following the Wisconsin situation closely, except 
perhaps Michael Moore's fictional version. Collective bargaining on non-salary 
issues in Wisconsin resulted in regulations that forced the state to keep a 
special education school open that had one student and four teachers. It forced 
them to fire four young, enthusiastic teachers when cuts had to be made, rather 
than one old guy who had been suspended twice for abusing students. And 
collective bargaining rights for salary haven't been lost. All that's changed 
is that the unions won't be able to dictate the way the state is run. The 
"corn-fed fascist," you refer to in your ad hominem attack, didn't cause the 
current budget crisis. He's only been in office for 60 days. He has tried to 
provide a better climate for business, so that manufacturers might stay in the 
state, and perhaps even some  new ones will relocate there -- rather than in 
the multitude of states that have low business taxes and right-to-work laws 
that effectively neuter unions. Wisconsin is still a union state; many others 
are not.

Oh, and by the way, the governor was elected at the ballot box. The people 
chose him and his policies. 

But this debate is a far cry from Ecke's snide little remarks about those who 
oppose wikileaks. It's really out of control and has led to so much nonsense. 
Most of it from people who have no grasp of U.S. issues or politics.

I'm finished.


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