On 14/04/2011 01:01, Larry Colen wrote:

On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Where do you stand on the Porsche vs. Dodge Van question?

The first time I drove a Dodge van on the track, I was turning faster laptimes 
in my van than I had been in my Corolla. I was also turning faster laptimes 
than one of the students in his second generation MR2. I did realize that if I 
rolled the toyota up into a little ball I could tow it home in the van, the 
function was not commutable.

The one time I drove my current van on the track, I had to drive so slow so 
that my current student could keep up, I have no idea as to it's performance 
abilities.

I don't have any direct experience with a Dodge Van and a Porsche, but I did 
have a student once, who by the end of the day was keeping up with my Honda 
stationwagon in his carrera 4.  Some years back, Grassroots Motorsports did a 
laptime comparison between a Honda Odyssey and a Jaguar E-type on an autocross 
course. The Odyssey was substantially faster.

In any case, depending on the van, the porsche and the racetrack, there's a 
good chance that I could turn a faster laptime than him, if I were in a Dodge 
Van and he were in a Porsche. Given drivers of equal skill, and a 1/2 ton van 
with a 360 and swaybars versus a 914/1.8 and upgraded swaybars, I wouldn't be 
surprised if the van took on the porsche.

How about a Jaguar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaQmOkBvWh0&feature=related

Forward to about 5.00minutes if you don't want the history lesson.

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