On Nov 29, 2011, at 17:23 , Tom C wrote:

>> From: Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net>
>> As I recall, the photo wasn't particularly bad. But Shel's critique was 
>> aimed directly at the photographer, without any real discussion of the 
>> image. It was way out of line. There's never a need for a personal attack.
>> Paul
>> On Nov 29, 2011, at 6:43 PM, William Robb wrote:
>> 
>>> On 29/11/2011 9:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I expect a different level of photos from Bill Robb or Mark C. or Frank and
>>>> can offer sharper criticism.  With less experienced photographers,
>>>> it isn't so much criticism as encouragement.
>>>> 
>>> That was, I believe, Shel's reasoning behind his harsh critique. The 
>>> photographer had an extremely high quality body of work, and posted an 
>>> image that was far, far below his standard.
>>> Shel certainly did saw off on him, but I didn't think it completely 
>>> undeserved, either.
>>> At some point, an honest critique of a good photographer posting a junk 
>>> photo is going to delve into asking just exactly what the photographer was 
>>> thinking.
>>> 
>>> William Robb
>>> 
> 
> That's an idiotic thing to say Bill! How could you be so lame brained
> to make such a moronic comment? I thought you were smarter than that,
> but I guess not...
> 
> Shel was totally out of line and it's exactly that kind of critique
> that's out of place and is flat out wrong.
> 
> First, it presumes, often incorrectly, that the critic knows better
> than the photographer which is many times not the case. Second, a
> photographer can take any kind of photo they want, and since
> subjectivity plays such a large role, the critic's opinion is merely
> that. Third, Shel of all people had no right to criticize other's work
> in such a manner. As far as I was concerned his body of work he
> displayed was 95% dung heap with a SOB story to go with it, and had
> next to no redeeming merit. Any elementary school child handed a
> camera for the first time could have produced the same without
> thinking.
> 
> Tom C

I see Shel is still around under a Nome de Plume!   :-)>

Joseph McAllister
Pentaxian

http://gallery.me.com/jomac


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