On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Joseph McAllister <pentax...@mac.com> wrote:
> Bypassing all the card failure talk for a moment, Christine, let's talk rapid 
> shooting with the K-5.

Ok, let's!  :)

>
> I've been stymied a few times when I was shooting RAW+JPEG with JPEG at 4 
> stars and large image size (the two JPEG conditions you can adjust) and the 
> camera set on 'Continuous - Hi Speed.
>
> The camera will shoot quite a few shots under the circumstances, I don't know 
> the limits at the moment. Once you stop shooting, the writing can go on for 
> quite some time, though it should let you shoot some more frames as the 
> buffer gets emptied.

Yes, I have experienced this as well... though I don't usually shoot
RAW +, just RAW, but the same thing happens when I shoot off several
bursts in quick succession... it does need time to catch up.  This
time, it seemed to be taking extra-long... I couldn't have taken more
than 6 or 8 shots, and it was hung up for over a minute (based on
quarter mile splits...).

> Turning the camera on & off while the camera is writing it's buffers to card 
> seems to me to be a good way to corrupt the data being written, even to the 
> point where, like an old floppy, the writing of the directory gets corrupted. 
> At that point it makes sense that the camera may tell you it has '0' room 
> left on it, as the card cannot tell the camera what it has because it doesn't 
> know itself.

I accept that my panicky button pushing likely made things worse... at
least, if there had been any chance of images being written to the
card eventually, I effectively put a stop to that.  Argh.

>
> Try hooking the card up to your computer and see if it mounts to the desktop. 
> If it does, format it as a Mac or PC removable device, as you would a USB 
> memory stick. If you can do that, putting it back in the camera and 
> formatting it again (not erase - format) may salvage it.

It does mount to the desktop... and on it appear two images.  Well,
one image, fully formed... the other looks to be the start of an
image, represented only by the DNG icon, no preview, a file containing
0kb.  So, there you have it.  The first image was the chimp, the next,
must have been the first of the burst.
>
> Next thing to try is to see if the maker of the card has a downloadable 
> software program to "save the data on a corrupted SD card" like SanDisk does.

We do have something like that on hand -- my next step.
>
> I may be anal, but as I purchased them (SanDisks, usually from Costco) I went 
> on the SanDisk site and registered them to my account. Comes in handy when 
> they fail years later - you might even get a free replacement.

Will keep that in mind for my future (near future) purchases...

Thanks!

-c


>
> I had two of my 1 TB Iomega Mac Minidisks fail in the past six months. Turns 
> out I had gotten extended warranty on them because I had registered them 
> right away when I bought them. Like Pentax's offer for a 3 year vs a 1 year 
> warranty if you register the piece within 30 days or some-such. Anyway, both 
> drives extended warranties are up July 1st. So Monday, off they go for 
> replacement which, except for shipping to Iomega, is much cheaper than buying 
> a couple of replacement drives and sticking them in the Iomega cases.
>
> Gook Luck with all this -
>
> Jos. J. McAllister
> Optimist Extraordinair
>
>
> On May 27, 2012, at 11:36 , Christine Nielsen wrote:
>
>> Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the
>> state division track meet.  I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo.  I
>> had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp.
>> So far, so good.  The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot
>> off a burst as the runners came past me.  Since they have to travel
>> another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the
>> opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet
>> available.  OK, I wait.... but the little red light stayed on... and
>> wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds
>> later).... crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up.  No
>> shooting, no previews, just a little red light.  I turn off the
>> camera.  Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the "image
>> remaining" count still shows, approx 216 shots left.  Then, I forget
>> exactly what I did -- probably turned it off & on, swore at it a few
>> times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, "memory card
>> error" on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at "0".
>>
>> And then the race was over.
>>
>> I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic!
>> I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were
>> no other problems.  Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card
>> failures you've known?  How much worse do you think I made the
>> situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -c
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