On Dec 30, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Bob W wrote:

>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jens
>> 
>> So, human nature makes it possible for the individual to survive,
>> mainly by putting ME first (before US or humanity). This way the
>> individual may survive.
> 
> that's not strictly correct. What seems to work best is enlightened
> self-interest. This is the recognition that we all do better by cooperating
> than we do by trying to maximise our own gains at the expense of others.
> It's not a zero-sum game.
> 
> Where systems such as communism and laissez-faire capitalism fail is when we
> forget that, and a small clique is able temporarily to run things for their
> own benefit, at our expense.
> 
> B

Note that the cliquers always seem to be able to rationalize that their own 
enrichment will in fact benefit all.

stan

> 
>> For humanity to survive shurely something much better than selfishness
>> is needed. In order to survive the climate changes, polution etc.
>> surely something better than putting ME before US is needed. If not
>> communism or socialism, maybe something much better, based on a
>> philosphy, that can put US before ME!
>> Or at least make US/humanity win in the long run.
>> 
>> Meanwhile I'll try to improve my photographic skills and equipment,
>> while taking good care of my kids, whife and grandchildren and fellow
>> man, not to mention our common Planet Earth. (I may start by getting
>> the K-5IIs :-)
>> 
>> Mery Christmass to all and a very happy new year!
>> 
>> Jens
>> 
>> Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. Leave the world
>> a better place.
> 
> 
> 
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