Thanks again, Paul. 
 
Jack

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Printing B&W

I used to be able to get decent BW prints with an Epson 1200, which doesn't 
have multiple blacks. It's much easier with one of the newer multi-black 
printers like the 3000 or the 2880, but you should be able to get acceptable BW 
results with the 1800. 

You don't need or want access to the color controls in the printing 
program.Turn off all color controls and adjust color in PhotoShop. Select "let 
photoshop control colors" in your printing setup box. Use the Epson icc profile 
for the premium luster paper. It's very accurate. Render your photo as a 
grayscale image in PhotoShop, then convert it to whatever your PhotoShop color 
space is set to. Prophoto RGB or Adobe 98 RGB for example.  If your monitor 
calibration is accurate, the image in an RGB odor space should remain BW with 
no color tint. Then print with photoshop controlling the color. You may get a 
slight color case, but you should be pretty close to pure BW.
On Apr 1, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Paul. When I chose "Photoshop controls color" I no longer have access 
> to color controls in the printing program. I'm absolutely satisfied that the 
> image to be printed is B&W.
> I have a pro editor acquaintance to question on such things and he says he 
> does two things when it comes to printing B&W. 1) Clean printer heads. 2) 
> Turn off all color controls. This person is now retired and working out of 
> his home. I understand he makes house calls. I have his business card and am 
> about ready to give him a call.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net>
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> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 3:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Printing B&W
> 
> Good results are very difficult to achieve when the printer controls the 
> color. Change your setup to Photoshop controls color and turn off all printer 
> color control. You can find instructions for printing workflow management on 
> the web. 
> 
> Paul
> On Apr 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>>           I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate having 
>>sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 hours. 
>>Would have been more, but I've been interrupted a few times with meals, 
>>toilet and accompanying my wife in her travels to uninteresting places.
>>           I have proof of past B&W successes which only serves to make me 
>>doubt myself rather than the printer. The printer is an Epson Stylus PHOTO 
>>R1800 (remember those?) which I bought new about a dozen years ago.
>>           The only "calibrating" I've ever done to the system is a fairly 
>>regular session with Huey whenever I begin to see ghostly shadows bordering 
>>images.
>>           I've given control to the printer and then turned down the 
>>available colors (only includes magenta, yellow and cyan) to a limit of minus 
>>25. Get a grape blue. If I select "no color control" or "photoshop elements 
>>manages color" it's a shade of magenta.
>> I don't do a lot of printing any more, but seems it's a B&W when I do. Color 
>> hasn't been a problem.
>> I've made several trips to my favorite lab in Sacramento in recent years, 
>> always to get a B&W done that I'm pressed to supply. I, also, do that when I 
>> need a print larger than 13"x 19."
>>           I've figured out that a new printer would solve my problem, but 
>>I'd likely not be around long enough to use it up.
>>           If you're familiar with the printer and have any thoughts that may 
>>help, please pass them along.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Jack
>> 
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