That's right. Especially that nowadays being connected (aka being able to upload your next selfie to facebook or whatever) matters more than being photographically endowed, so to speak.

On 1/5/2014 12:57 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
My Sony RX100II is truly pocket-able and has an integrated 28/1.8
equivalent lens, the Panasonic is very small but you still need to add
a lens but in both cases neither are even close to replacing an SLR
for so many types of photography that I do. I use the camera in my
Android phone exensively too but again only within its limitations.
You have to know what the gear can do in order to use it effectively,
for most people a P&S is sufficient and for an increasing many the
camera in their phone has proved to be more than adequate but that's
not going to make top end DSLRs any less relevant.

On 5 January 2014 06:32, Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com> wrote:
Aahz, I have to very respectfully disagree. Have a look on Voigtlander
Nokton 40/1.4. Given its speed, it is positively very small. And to boot it
naturally covers the so called full frame. The Pentax 40/2.8 pancake is also
very small.

So you can have small (not iPhone small though) lenses and cameras...


On 1/4/2014 9:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sat, Jan 04, 2014, Boris Liberman wrote:


My point is that miniaturization is reaching yet another level. And
this camera unlike iPhone's and plethora of Android devices is
seriously real deal.


Yes and no -- real glass requires real weight and bulk.  I agree that
most people (who don't care about DOF, macro, or large prints) will
stick with phone cameras.  No surprise, really.



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