Adobe doesn't have my confidence either. Anybody who wants to get in my machine every time I sign on is not my friend. And, there is a new version of the PDF reader they want to download every time. I believe that is bullshit. Regards, Bob S.
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:37 PM, steve harley <p...@paper-ape.com> wrote: > on 2014-02-01 9:50 Christine Aguila wrote >> >> Hi Everyone: >> >> Anyone using Adobe's Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or >> criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for >> an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. > > > i have used Photoshop and Illustrator since the early 90s, and InDesign > since its public beta; i had a CC subscription when it launched; canceled it > last May when the intro price, $30/month, went up to $50; i doubt my > situation is that uncommon -- i have a background and a small current > sideline as a graphics professional, so i have occasional uses for InDesign, > Acrobat, Photoshop & Illustrator, but not quite enough to justify $600/year; > that could change (i do a significant amount with QuarkXPress still, but my > client supplies a license), and it's nice to think i can jump back into > InDesign when needed without forking over "full price"; but by pricing me > out, Adobe has caused me to use other tools and gradually lose my chops with > the Adobe apps ... for example i do text with markdown and sometimes Pages, > and i find Pixelmator is great for quick hack jobs on images (has layers, > type, and a lot more, but is not nearly as precise, nor do i trust its > color) > > when i did subscribe, i found i really disliked CC's required update tool on > the Mac; and from a professional standpoint there are serious concerns about > no recourse for version-specific bugs and incompatibilities -- one can't > retain multiple versions of what the subscription supplies, as one could > with the traditional license, and Adobe historically has taken years to fix > significant bugs introduced by new versions > > overall Adobe doesn't have my confidence; its professional apps have a > guaranteed market in the short term, but its long-term strategy seems to be > focused on the consumer, not pro, market; i regret that Adobe ever dominated > the market as it did, because that set us up for trouble when print > publishing stopped being a growth industry -- for example, without Adobe's > dominance i think it might have felt pressure to gradate prices depending on > the subscribers' needs (student pricing is worth looking at, though) > > i do think if you need just Photoshop and LR and you qualify, $10/month is a > pretty good price; LightRoom seems to have a growthful future both for pros > and consumers, so it may be insulated from the market-dominance side effects > > as for hardware requirements, it depends on the type of documents you > produce; with InDesign, longer and/or more complex documents can slow things > down a lot, and benefit from faster machines; InDesign is not a lightweight > application, i found the CC version slowish with moderately complex > documents (2 pages, but hundreds of elements) on my quad-i7 laptop with 16GB > RAM; the i5 vs i7 probably makes less difference than the amount of RAM and > the speed of your drives; i understand newer iMacs use "desktop" versions of > i5 & i7 CPUs, which differ less in their performance than the "mobile" > versions of the same; a large display is also helpful, as InDesign is very > palette-happy > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.