Well done. Why not clone out the tats?

Paul via phone

> On Feb 23, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Pin-up is of course loaded with meanings, some specific, some generic.
> 
> Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin-up
> 
> Traditional "American pin-up" ended in the 1960's when photography
> replaced illustration in calendars and magazines like Esquire. Most
> people equate the term Pin-up with 1940's and 1950's illustration of
> the type that servicemen pinned-up in lockers.
> 
> You can't do any better than to get a copy of The Great American
> Pin-Up, by Martinette/Meisel and published by Taschen. All the best
> artists are covered, like Gil Elvgren, Alberto Vargas, Art Frahm, Earl
> Moran, Zoe Mozert. They were active from WWII to 1970. It also covers
> Art Deco pin-ups (1920-1940) and a large number of more obscure
> artists, plus some modern artists like Olivia De Berardinis (Playboy).
> 
> So to be authentic to the pin-up esthetic you want to use wardrobe,
> props, hair and makeup and poses -- ie the look -- in keeping with the
> period. For extra points you try to be in keeping with one or more of
> the common painted themes.
> 
> Elvgren's look was happy and airy, his girls always smiled or look
> surprised when their dresses were blown up by the wind revealing
> garters and stocking tops. But they never looked coy or come-hither or
> obviously sexy.
> 
> Art Frahm's girls often suffered wardrobe malfunctions out in the
> street: their panties would have fallen to their ankles when they had
> their arms full of groceries. But their modesty was always preserved.
> 
> Pin-ups were generally not nude, not even bared breasts. There are a
> lot of swimsuit pin-ups. Pin-up usually lies somewhere in the spectrum
> from glamour images to very tame erotica.
> 
> 
> You will encounter a thing known as the pin-up lifestyle. That is made
> up of people who worship the 1940's and 1950's. They will decorate
> their homes with real vintage or fifties looking furniture and
> decorations and wear polka dot dresses (especially full, with
> crinolines). They they'll go jitterbugging at the hop.
> 
> http://www.pinuplifestyle.com/
> 
> On that thing about the cars. A related interest to pin-up is
> Rockabilly and this is where you see a lot of 1950's and early 60's
> hot-rods as props.
> 
> If you want to see a lot of contemporary takes on pin-up, check out this 
> Tumblr:
> 
> http://pinuppost.com/
> 
> On the high-key issue. Creative pinups are somehow interesting. While
> there's nothing wrong with a basic pose on a white or plain
> background, especially if the girl and the outfit is a stunner, it's
> more interesting if it tells a story, eg there's some background,
> props, etc.
> 
> When I did a pin-up shoot, I took my cues from Gil Elvgren. Eg: here's
> his The Right Touch:
> http://www.gilelvgren.com/ge/paintingsEnlarge.php?id=35&categoryID=7
> 
> And here's mine:
> http://flic.kr/p/c6B5aE
> 
> I shot high-key on a white background then composited in new backdrops
> (with more or less success).
> 
> Cherry Cheesecake:
> http://flic.kr/p/bSCWvR
> 
> Truly authentic pin-up girls would never have tattoos, so I lose some
> marks there. But just try to find a model without at least one tattoo
> these days.
> 
> My interest in pin-ups started with a deck of late 1940's playing
> cards that my father kept hidden in an upper drawer where his kids
> couldn't possibly find them. :-)
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
>> In another forum I made a comment that it might be fun to do a pin-up
>> style shoot at the Canepa museum.  I got some interesting critiques of
>> the idea from one person in particular.  Some quotes:
>> 
>> ... They have a lot of nice cars, but mostly ex-race cars... Only a couple 
>> hot rods. ...
>> 
>> To which I replied, showing my own prejudices:
>> 
>> "We would definitely have to talk to them first.
>> 
>> As to the cars, race cars are what hot rods pretend to be."
>> 
>> Her reply was:
>> If you're going for a traditional pin-up look, you don't want to be standing 
>> next to a 1974 Porsche in a museum. You want to be standing next to a pre-62 
>> hot rod or kustom. Something that is distinctly American and not pretending 
>> to be anything other than what it is. The hot rod and kustom culture that 
>> originated in post-war California still exists in a vibrant way, and is 
>> accessible to those who want to shoot traditional pin-up photography and not 
>> just photos of girls with cars.
>> 
>> I said that I didn't particularly care to be authentic, and asked what
>> I should call it.  She said:
>> 
>> Perhaps you should use the term "girls with cars" rather than pin-up for 
>> what you're doing. The last shoot you did would more closely fall under the 
>> genre of portraiture than pin-up. Using high-key lighting as you did in that 
>> shoot is considered very amateur in the pin-up photographer community.
>> 
>> So, some questions to those who know more about pin-up photography than I,
>> which isn't setting the bar very high:
>> 
>> What is the definition of "pin-up" photography?
>> 
>> Is high-key lighting really considered amateurish?
>> 
>> Only pre-1962 American cars?  Really?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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