Well done. Why not clone out the tats? Paul via phone
> On Feb 23, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Pin-up is of course loaded with meanings, some specific, some generic. > > Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin-up > > Traditional "American pin-up" ended in the 1960's when photography > replaced illustration in calendars and magazines like Esquire. Most > people equate the term Pin-up with 1940's and 1950's illustration of > the type that servicemen pinned-up in lockers. > > You can't do any better than to get a copy of The Great American > Pin-Up, by Martinette/Meisel and published by Taschen. All the best > artists are covered, like Gil Elvgren, Alberto Vargas, Art Frahm, Earl > Moran, Zoe Mozert. They were active from WWII to 1970. It also covers > Art Deco pin-ups (1920-1940) and a large number of more obscure > artists, plus some modern artists like Olivia De Berardinis (Playboy). > > So to be authentic to the pin-up esthetic you want to use wardrobe, > props, hair and makeup and poses -- ie the look -- in keeping with the > period. For extra points you try to be in keeping with one or more of > the common painted themes. > > Elvgren's look was happy and airy, his girls always smiled or look > surprised when their dresses were blown up by the wind revealing > garters and stocking tops. But they never looked coy or come-hither or > obviously sexy. > > Art Frahm's girls often suffered wardrobe malfunctions out in the > street: their panties would have fallen to their ankles when they had > their arms full of groceries. But their modesty was always preserved. > > Pin-ups were generally not nude, not even bared breasts. There are a > lot of swimsuit pin-ups. Pin-up usually lies somewhere in the spectrum > from glamour images to very tame erotica. > > > You will encounter a thing known as the pin-up lifestyle. That is made > up of people who worship the 1940's and 1950's. They will decorate > their homes with real vintage or fifties looking furniture and > decorations and wear polka dot dresses (especially full, with > crinolines). They they'll go jitterbugging at the hop. > > http://www.pinuplifestyle.com/ > > On that thing about the cars. A related interest to pin-up is > Rockabilly and this is where you see a lot of 1950's and early 60's > hot-rods as props. > > If you want to see a lot of contemporary takes on pin-up, check out this > Tumblr: > > http://pinuppost.com/ > > On the high-key issue. Creative pinups are somehow interesting. While > there's nothing wrong with a basic pose on a white or plain > background, especially if the girl and the outfit is a stunner, it's > more interesting if it tells a story, eg there's some background, > props, etc. > > When I did a pin-up shoot, I took my cues from Gil Elvgren. Eg: here's > his The Right Touch: > http://www.gilelvgren.com/ge/paintingsEnlarge.php?id=35&categoryID=7 > > And here's mine: > http://flic.kr/p/c6B5aE > > I shot high-key on a white background then composited in new backdrops > (with more or less success). > > Cherry Cheesecake: > http://flic.kr/p/bSCWvR > > Truly authentic pin-up girls would never have tattoos, so I lose some > marks there. But just try to find a model without at least one tattoo > these days. > > My interest in pin-ups started with a deck of late 1940's playing > cards that my father kept hidden in an upper drawer where his kids > couldn't possibly find them. :-) > > >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote: >> In another forum I made a comment that it might be fun to do a pin-up >> style shoot at the Canepa museum. I got some interesting critiques of >> the idea from one person in particular. Some quotes: >> >> ... They have a lot of nice cars, but mostly ex-race cars... Only a couple >> hot rods. ... >> >> To which I replied, showing my own prejudices: >> >> "We would definitely have to talk to them first. >> >> As to the cars, race cars are what hot rods pretend to be." >> >> Her reply was: >> If you're going for a traditional pin-up look, you don't want to be standing >> next to a 1974 Porsche in a museum. You want to be standing next to a pre-62 >> hot rod or kustom. Something that is distinctly American and not pretending >> to be anything other than what it is. The hot rod and kustom culture that >> originated in post-war California still exists in a vibrant way, and is >> accessible to those who want to shoot traditional pin-up photography and not >> just photos of girls with cars. >> >> I said that I didn't particularly care to be authentic, and asked what >> I should call it. She said: >> >> Perhaps you should use the term "girls with cars" rather than pin-up for >> what you're doing. The last shoot you did would more closely fall under the >> genre of portraiture than pin-up. Using high-key lighting as you did in that >> shoot is considered very amateur in the pin-up photographer community. >> >> So, some questions to those who know more about pin-up photography than I, >> which isn't setting the bar very high: >> >> What is the definition of "pin-up" photography? >> >> Is high-key lighting really considered amateurish? >> >> Only pre-1962 American cars? 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