Paul, we were already incorporating some anachronistic elements (like a 1910 Underwood typewriter and 1970's furniture) so I took a suggestion from Bob W and called the series Post Modern Pin-ups. That gave me license to pretty much include what I felt like. :-)
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> wrote: > Well done. Why not clone out the tats? > > Paul via phone > >> On Feb 23, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Pin-up is of course loaded with meanings, some specific, some generic. >> >> Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin-up >> >> Traditional "American pin-up" ended in the 1960's when photography >> replaced illustration in calendars and magazines like Esquire. Most >> people equate the term Pin-up with 1940's and 1950's illustration of >> the type that servicemen pinned-up in lockers. >> >> You can't do any better than to get a copy of The Great American >> Pin-Up, by Martinette/Meisel and published by Taschen. All the best >> artists are covered, like Gil Elvgren, Alberto Vargas, Art Frahm, Earl >> Moran, Zoe Mozert. They were active from WWII to 1970. It also covers >> Art Deco pin-ups (1920-1940) and a large number of more obscure >> artists, plus some modern artists like Olivia De Berardinis (Playboy). >> >> So to be authentic to the pin-up esthetic you want to use wardrobe, >> props, hair and makeup and poses -- ie the look -- in keeping with the >> period. For extra points you try to be in keeping with one or more of >> the common painted themes. >> >> Elvgren's look was happy and airy, his girls always smiled or look >> surprised when their dresses were blown up by the wind revealing >> garters and stocking tops. But they never looked coy or come-hither or >> obviously sexy. >> >> Art Frahm's girls often suffered wardrobe malfunctions out in the >> street: their panties would have fallen to their ankles when they had >> their arms full of groceries. But their modesty was always preserved. >> >> Pin-ups were generally not nude, not even bared breasts. There are a >> lot of swimsuit pin-ups. Pin-up usually lies somewhere in the spectrum >> from glamour images to very tame erotica. >> >> >> You will encounter a thing known as the pin-up lifestyle. That is made >> up of people who worship the 1940's and 1950's. They will decorate >> their homes with real vintage or fifties looking furniture and >> decorations and wear polka dot dresses (especially full, with >> crinolines). They they'll go jitterbugging at the hop. >> >> http://www.pinuplifestyle.com/ >> >> On that thing about the cars. A related interest to pin-up is >> Rockabilly and this is where you see a lot of 1950's and early 60's >> hot-rods as props. >> >> If you want to see a lot of contemporary takes on pin-up, check out this >> Tumblr: >> >> http://pinuppost.com/ >> >> On the high-key issue. Creative pinups are somehow interesting. While >> there's nothing wrong with a basic pose on a white or plain >> background, especially if the girl and the outfit is a stunner, it's >> more interesting if it tells a story, eg there's some background, >> props, etc. >> >> When I did a pin-up shoot, I took my cues from Gil Elvgren. Eg: here's >> his The Right Touch: >> http://www.gilelvgren.com/ge/paintingsEnlarge.php?id=35&categoryID=7 >> >> And here's mine: >> http://flic.kr/p/c6B5aE >> >> I shot high-key on a white background then composited in new backdrops >> (with more or less success). >> >> Cherry Cheesecake: >> http://flic.kr/p/bSCWvR >> >> Truly authentic pin-up girls would never have tattoos, so I lose some >> marks there. But just try to find a model without at least one tattoo >> these days. >> >> My interest in pin-ups started with a deck of late 1940's playing >> cards that my father kept hidden in an upper drawer where his kids >> couldn't possibly find them. :-) >> >> >>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote: >>> In another forum I made a comment that it might be fun to do a pin-up >>> style shoot at the Canepa museum. I got some interesting critiques of >>> the idea from one person in particular. Some quotes: >>> >>> ... They have a lot of nice cars, but mostly ex-race cars... Only a couple >>> hot rods. ... >>> >>> To which I replied, showing my own prejudices: >>> >>> "We would definitely have to talk to them first. >>> >>> As to the cars, race cars are what hot rods pretend to be." >>> >>> Her reply was: >>> If you're going for a traditional pin-up look, you don't want to be >>> standing next to a 1974 Porsche in a museum. You want to be standing next >>> to a pre-62 hot rod or kustom. Something that is distinctly American and >>> not pretending to be anything other than what it is. The hot rod and kustom >>> culture that originated in post-war California still exists in a vibrant >>> way, and is accessible to those who want to shoot traditional pin-up >>> photography and not just photos of girls with cars. >>> >>> I said that I didn't particularly care to be authentic, and asked what >>> I should call it. She said: >>> >>> Perhaps you should use the term "girls with cars" rather than pin-up for >>> what you're doing. The last shoot you did would more closely fall under the >>> genre of portraiture than pin-up. Using high-key lighting as you did in >>> that shoot is considered very amateur in the pin-up photographer community. >>> >>> So, some questions to those who know more about pin-up photography than I, >>> which isn't setting the bar very high: >>> >>> What is the definition of "pin-up" photography? >>> >>> Is high-key lighting really considered amateurish? >>> >>> Only pre-1962 American cars? 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