Interesting conversation. As a citizen of 'the rest of Europe' my view of the UK as a member of the EU is:
- They just want the good things of the Union (free trade) but not the bad things (immigration,...). Brexit leaders promised to achieve this perfect equation. - They are (were) in, but with their own rules (currency, somehow restricted borders,...) - They always try to deactivate (from within) all the attempts for a closer political union. So, yes, probably the Brexit is a bad thing in the short term, but maybe is a good opportunity for both parties, specially for the Europeans that are willing to build a closer and more supportive Union. Regards, Jaume ________________________________ De: Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> Para: pentax list <PDML@pdml.net> Enviado: Martes 5 de julio de 2016 16:52 Asunto: Re: OT Brexit Aftermath On 5/7/16, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >Doesn't that make the referendum meaningless? Yes and no. We don't have proportional representation - we elect MPs to look after our interests in parliament. With the way our system works, I would have been in favour of our elected MPs (after due diligence in listening to their constituents) voting in parliament on our behalf. Sadly the PM promised a public referendum and the result is now a matter of fact. I say this because in my opinion a lot of people were not educated enough to understand what they were voting for/against. There appeared to be a public backlash based on misinformation and lack of ability to seemingly gather facts independently. This article might be of interest: <http://www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/divided- britain-brexit-money-class-inequality-westminster> alternative link: <http://tinyurl.com/hpv5j99> >Certainly some people might >vote for Labour on other grounds, even though they do not want to remain in >the EU. But surely a potential government promising a superseding of the referendum result would attract pro-EU voters and dissuade anti-EU voters. The opposition party (in power) have promised to uphold the referendum result and leave the EU, so in a general election that might be their promise, though I think they would lose. >The whole idea of a referendum is to isolate those other factors >and get a decision on the single issue: leave or stay. I understand and agree - but in politics there are many ways to skin a cat (and a voter!). >The Leave issue is a complex one, based on emotion as well as on political >principles. I think Britain's departure would be a great loss for the rest >of Europe, but the British people have to decide what is best for them. I >just hope it all get sorted out without too much additional turmoil and >economic harm to all concerned. Amen to that! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) | Web Video Production ---------- <www.seeingeye.tv> _____________________________ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
