And DA or DA* lenses, which are quite compact and intended for the compact 
APS-C cameras.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 28, 2017, at 3:58 AM, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:
> 
> So if you want small(er) lenses, stick to screw drive or MF?
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: P. J. Alling
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 5:55 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: D FA★ 85mm F1.4
> 
> Well they all have internal focusing motors and probably internal
> aperture motors.  Those will take up a certian amount of room. Then
> there's the extra lens elements to correct for sharpness robbing
> aberrations.  So be careful what you ask for I guess. Face it lenses
> will be bigger.  Sure it frees up design but that freedom will most
> likely be used to make manufacture easier, more than anything else.
> 
> 
>> On 2/27/2017 10:33 AM, Gonz wrote:
>> Wow, what the hell happened?  I think I'll stick with the smaller
>> lenses, even if manual.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2/25/2017 10:00 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>> On 2/24/2017 7:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>>> It looks like Ricoh is serious. Now they are planning a D FA★ 85mm F1.4.
>>>>>> Fun times.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/cpplus-2017/d-fa-85mm-f14-on-the-horizon.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> That lens is taking serious aim at my pocketbook.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are they only announcing the 50 and 85 this weekend?
>>>>> 
>>>> That's all I've seen so far. They are promising at the moment that for
>>>> 2017 or later, they will introduce a wide angle single focus (this is
>>>> single focal length (that's a prime lens, if Dodo is still reading)) :),
>>>> a large aperture standard prime, a large aperture medium telephoto
>>>> prime, a large aperture ultra wide angle prime and a fish-eye zoom.
>>>> 
>>>> See the road-map here:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.photographyblog.com/news/pentax_lens_roadmaps_at_photokina_2016/
>>>> 
>>>> I'm excited about the 50. The standard lens is my favorite walk around,
>>>> though this one is big enough that I might not like it so much, and I
>>>> already have an A*85/1.4, which is excellent, so the 85 is only somewhat
>>>> interesting to me.
>>>> I saw a mock up of the new 50mm sitting beside the FA50/1.4, the new one
>>>> looks to be about 3 times the size of the old one.
>>> 
>>> Here's the picture:
>>> 
>>> https://pageshot.net/images/c6310f79-2aca-47f4-8bd8-6c3fbd0835d0.png
>>> 
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