I’ve shot many birds against the sky. I prefer to shoot them perching. I fully 
understand exposure.

Paul

> On May 20, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> If you shoot "straight" up at any color
> bird in a bright sky, plan on a silhouette.
> It's about good light and keeping
> track of the angles.
> Yes, it will take staying aware and
> practice.
> Hope you give it a try, Paul.
> J
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I always use TAV and select the app and shutter speed I want. Shooting 
>> skyward without exposure comp, anything other than a white bird ends up 
>> underexposed. If one dials in ISO 1250 and bumps the exposure two stops in 
>> rendering, the net result is ISO 5000. So I figure Im better off going for a 
>> conservative shutter speed when possible.
>> Paul
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2018, at 6:31 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I set a 1250 ISO and actually get a
>>> good number with decent lighting.
>>> Of course I'm shooting skyward 
>>> much of the time.
>>> J
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 20, 2018, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I wasn’t panning, but I was shooting off a tripod, and he had just 
>>>> launched from the suet cage. I rarely have enough light for 1/2000th at 
>>>> f8. But I do sometimes go there when shooting hand held, which is rare 
>>>> these days.
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 20, 2018, at 4:32 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Paul. I use a 2000 to 2500
>>>>> shutter. 
>>>>> Your panning helped for sure.
>>>>> J
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 20, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This was 1/640th. I wasn’t planning an in flight shot. Normally I go 
>>>>>> with 1/1000th.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 20, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nice catch, Paul. 
>>>>>>> What is your chosen shutter speed
>>>>>>> for wing shots?
>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A woodpecker on the go with a treat for later.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18474189/Red-Breasted-Flier
>>>>>>>> 
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