On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 7:42 AM Jostein Øksne <p...@alunfoto.no> wrote: > > This saving in Affinity, Bruce... > It reads to me like the problem has two components and I'm a little confused > about what's what. > For starters, you configured Affinity as an external editor in LR, right?
Right. > Then you invoked Affinity from LR, which makes LR create a TIFF that is > opened in Affinity. Hope I'm still on track. Correct. Still on track. :-) > Then, when you finished the edit in Affinity, I imagine you saved the TIFF as > is. Yup. I save the Affinity-edited version. > Here are the things I haven't quite figured out yet... > > Did the the saved edit of the TIFF then show in LR? If not, could the preview > be refreshed to show it? Yes, it appears in the Lr Library as expected. > And about the layers... Did Affinity preserve layers in the saved file? No, it doesn't, and that's the essential problem. Affinity cannot create a layered TIFF like Photoshop. It flattens the TIFF so all your intermediate editing steps -- the layers -- are gone forever. As one reviewer pointed out you can save the edited file separately from within Affinity as a proprietary Affinity file but Lightroom can't manage that as an asset, so it can (and will likely) go astray. > Jostein the slow learner... That I doubt. :-) > > Den 4. november 2018 02.54.04 CET, skrev Bruce Walker > <bruce.wal...@gmail.com>: > >No, no. I was evaluating AP as a possible substitute for Photoshop. So > >Edit-in-Affinity must be able to accept a TIFF file, edit that into a > >layered TIFF, then write it back to Lightroom, just like Photoshop > >does. Ie: the workflow expected by your regular Lightroom user. > > > >It can't do that. So ... /next/. > > > >On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 6:16 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi > ><godfreydigio...@me.com> wrote: > >> > >> That’s great, but if you’re using AP as your external editor for LR, > >why are you using Photoshop to generate files? > >> > >> G > >> > >> > >> > On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> > >wrote: > >> > > >> > Godfrey, then it must have been a year ago then. They were pushing > >the > >> > impending release with a big social media and blogging sites > >campaign > >> > and urging folks to give the beta a test as it was to be released > >> > shortly. > >> > > >> > > >> > You don't _make_ a layered file in Lightroom. You receive one back > >> > into Lightroom from an external editor, like Photoshop. > >> > > >> > Example: starting in Lightroom with a DNG file in your library, you > >> > invoke Edit-in Photoshop. That sends the file to Photoshop where it > >> > appears as a single layer in a freshly opened file. > >> > > >> > You edit this. Create some adjustment layers. Now Save. > >> > > >> > That sends the edited copy of the file back to Lightroom as a > >layered > >> > TIFF where it appears in the catalog as a new file. I stack that > >with > >> > the original for less confusion. > >> > > >> > If you re-edit that edited TIFF you will find that the entire thing > >is > >> > there intact with all layers, meta info, etc. > >> > > >> > Clear? > >> > > >> >> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:18 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi > ><godfreydigio...@me.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Since Affinity Photo was still in beta release in mid-spring of > >2017 and didn't go final until after August 2017 far as I can tell, I > >doubt you were working with the "final beta" if it was a couple of > >years ago. > >> >> > >> >> I don't really understand the workflow that your comments propose. > >I'm not entirely sure how I make a "layered TIFF" or "layered PSD" file > >in Lightroom to begin with. Lightroom's use of layers is internal. ?? > >> >> > >> >> But for sure, if it's all of Photoshop that you want, just use > >Photoshop. > >> >> > >> >> G > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Bruce Walker > ><bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> I'm certainly willing to update my opinion about Affinity's > >> >>> capabilities, but I was unable to complete a review of it myself > >when > >> >>> I tested their final beta a couple of years ago. > >> >>> > >> >>> The first issue I had was completely wacky colour shifts when I > >> >>> imported a file from Lightroom. I assume they have fixed that by > >now. > >> >>> > >> >>> But the utter deal-killer was that although you can configure it > >as an > >> >>> external editor to Lightroom and it will import a layered TIFF, > >it > >> >>> cannot write a layered TIFF (or a PSD) back to Lightroom. So if I > >used > >> >>> it as an external editor I lost all my carefully constructed > >layers > >> >>> when the file was flattened to save it back. That is 100% useless > >to > >> >>> me as my files often make a few round trips to the external > >editor > >> >>> while I make revisions, or in the case of long retouch, save > >> >>> checkpoints or continue editing later on. > >> >>> > >> >>> This is till the case as far as I can tell from googling. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:31 AM Mark Roberts > >> >>> <postmas...@robertstech.com> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Bruce Walker wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 7:03 AM Jostein Øksne > ><p...@alunfoto.no> wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Other developers are improving their products too, so > >essentially, if they can do now what CS6 can do, it's what I need it > >for. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> I can say with assurance that they do not. The majority of > >these > >> >>>>> products are going after the Lightroom market > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Affinity Photo is not going after Lightroom, it's definitely a > >> >>>> Photoshop replacement. I have it and it's *very* good. 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