I agree with everything Bob says.

Chris

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 23:03 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com wrote:

>
> > On 19 Nov 2018, at 11:57, Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote:
> >
> > On 18/11/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >> I am not inviting a political debate or discussion, but from this side
> of
> >> the pond, it appears that the political system of the UK i coming apart
> at
> >> the seams over Brexit.  I'm certain it is stressful and discomforting
> for
> >> everyone over there.
> >>
> >> Being a Brit these days must be almost as uncomfortable as being a
> devotee
> >> of a camera brand that is being deserted by the company that now owns
> the
> >> brand,
> >
> > Haha. Yep we're all just stopping in our tracks and imploding on the
> sidewalks. The mess is bearable as long as you've got surgical gowns on.
> >
> > Everyone is just going about their daily business and nothing has
> changed. The future will prove interesting for us - there will doubtless be
> a general election  announced in the coming days - Theresa May will not be
> able to get her Brexit bill through parliament, kicking off no-confidence
> vote, and leading to the inevitable. What happens then is anyone's guess.
> >
> > We're British - we're more interested in the weather.
> >
>
> Well, if you can bear it take a look at the Brexit-related comments on
> some of the BBC forums - I'm sure weather forums are not like that. The
> whole thing is a collective descent into madness. There is no reasoned
> discussion, and the reason the Leave won and Remain lost is that Leave
> played on the emotional aspects of it all, while Leave tried to play to
> reason. But it is not an issue where reason really matters for most people
> - I for one am pro-Europe by emotion at least as much as I am by reason.
> What it means is that the arguments are simply playground mud-slinging and
> very tiresome once you're past the initial entertainment of it all.
>
> The problem is, if there's another referendum and Remain wins, the Leave
> camp will never shut up, they will beaver away obsessively just as they did
> after the 1974 referendum, with their lies and prejudices and bigotry. If
> Leave win I suspect Remain will accept that the war is over and the bad
> guys won. I did march in favour of another referendum a couple of weeks
> ago, with 700,000 others - I don't think we'll get one, but I think it's
> important to make our voice heard because there is a real slide towards
> tyranny of the majority, and the notion of winner takes all, even though
> the Leave majority was less than 4%. It's a very worrying slide.
>
> The other thing is that if we do indeed leave it will be the leave voters
> who suffer from the economic consequences, not the leaders of the Leave
> movement, who are feathering their own nests and intend to strip the
> workers of their rights as soon as they get the chance, or the middle-class
> oldies like me. They are robber barons of the worst sort, lying, conniving
> little shits who've used people to further their own interests. I'm a
> mild-mannered sort of chap, but I'd to see the whole fucking lot of them
> hanging from lampposts in Parliament Square. In the name of tolerance and
> democracy.
>
>
>
>
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