There are communities in parts of Canada around Hudson's Bay and Alaska
where Polar Bears wander down the middle of what you could call Main
Street, and there's no accounting for the stupidity of people. Bears of
all kinds are dangerous, hair triggered giant, on a human scale at
least, carnivores, who won't hesitate to attack when they feel
threatened, or maybe just hungry, and certain people just don't seem to
understand that.
Case in point, (Grizzly first cousin to a Polar Bear),
http://www.explorenorth.com/videos/grizzly-photographer_killed.html
There's no date on this article but I believe it was remarked upon in
the PDML back when it happened a number of years ago IIRC, or maybe it
was another incident, not really important.
Now there is a distinct possibility that the three photographers took
the image from a vehicle that looks like the one pictured in this article,
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/2017/02/17/polar-bear-spotting-churchill-canada/14872880344228
but, don't discount that there are photographers taking photos of bears,
while just wandering around the wilderness. There may be rules as in
Denali to keep at least a quarter mile away from bears, but as I said,
people can be unbelievably stupid, and there isn't a Ranger behind every
tree to enforce the rules. Really would you want there to be?
On 12/20/2018 1:35 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
I think it's more easily explained by a bunch of photographers on a tour having
to stand next to each other inside an anti-polar bear cage or something, than
it is by plagiarism. They're not going to be wandering around at will, choosing
the best spot, in a place full of hungry polar bears.
On 20 Dec 2018, at 17:03, John <jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
I note that Mangelsen Gallery doesn't identify a photographer, but presumably if another
photographer had taken it, the gallery would attribute it to them, so it "must"
have been taken by Thomas Mangelsen. ???
That raises more questions than it answers.
We now have three versions of the same image (one a mirror copy) supposedly taken
by Thomas Mangelsen, Kennan Ward and/or Tom & Pat Leeson.
I just don't see the three** of them standing tripod to tripod to tripod
photographing the same trio of bears. So who plagiarized whom?
I still wonder how the two versions of the image came to be mirrored and was it
taken in Churchill in Manitoba or at ANWR in Alaska ... or somewhere else? But
that's the least of the questions I have about the image.
Another thing ... if it was purchased from Mangelsen Gallery, there should be a
label on the back, especially if it's a limited edition print (certificate of
authenticity?). A limited edition print should also be signed & numbered,
usually on the mat.
Finally, that's a mighty cheap looking frame for an image that sold for so much.
On 12/19/2018 22:49:33, ann sanfedele wrote:
John - Ken wrote me off list - I didnt realise he had not sent his reply to
the list.. As a result of his correct ID I replied...
Third attribution today... I think you have the right answer -- The price
adds up to what friend 1 paid for it
https://www.mangelsen.com/platinum-level-images/winter-solace-2446.html
and who was it that noted that it could have been taken on a photo outing in in
Churchill - I knew (or felt certain that was where it was taken)
thanks, Ken
ann
On 12/19/2018 8:04 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Ann, it's a Thomas Mangelsen image titled "Winter Solace", one of 1500 copies,
with only 5 left for sale by Mangelsen - it goes for $1595. A mother polar bear and cubs
are a familiar subject for those that photograph them.
Hope this helps.
On 12/19/2018 10:31 PM, John wrote:
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