Well said, Godfrey. I well remember a heated argument I had with a fellow teacher along those lines many years ago. He was adamant that photography could never be art. One could even argue about the type of brush & paint used! And what if the "artist" had to wear glasses?
Alan C On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 6:52 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigio...@me.com> wrote: > I dunno. Art remains art. An "AI" is just another constructed thing by > which humans have extended their abilities to influence and manipulate the > world we live in. We already use automatons to assemble our cars, our toys, > our cameras, and run a lot of our essential infrastructure. There's really > little difference between what is Art directly created by human hands and > Art that is indirectly created by the minds that humans embue their > machines with. > > Until a definitive test of what constitutes machine intelligence exists, > and until machines can reliably and consistently pass that test, any Art is > the result of human artiface and mind regardless of whether it is directly > or indirectly created. > > If you want to put a simple limitation on "what is art" to say that it > must be made by human hands, well, that is just fine … but most photographs > will then be marginally not-art since we already rely upon a whole range of > machines, of varying levels of "intelligence", to produce our photographs. > > G > — > Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com - 408.431.4601 > > "You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus." > --Mark Twain > > > On Jan 21, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Comcast <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > But it’s happening. AI is now writing as well. Might as well make the > best of it. However, I’m glad I’ve reached an age where I probably won’t > have to compete with a robot for my job. > > > > Paul > > > >> On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:45 PM, ann sanfedele <ann...@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > >> > >> I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf. > >> > >> ann > >> > >>> On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > >>>> Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell: > >>>> Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop > work, > >>>> perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator. > >>>> More of such fantasy work will be our future. > >>> > >>> Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering > >>> if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps. > >>> > >>> Ralf > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.