Hi Robert,

it's great to hear about your plans. We always enjoyed seeing new plugins for 
PDT as this confirms there's strong PHP community around Eclipse. I'm even more 
happy now to hear that there's more to come.

Where can I follow your current discussion to better understand what you're 
planning/doing? Why not discuss or even develop this pdt-extension platform 
directly in PDT?


>From Zend pov, in the past the features that you mention were supposed to 
>differentiate PDT and Zend Studio. Nowadays Zend Studio has gone in slightly 
>different direction, and also more free alternatives popped up, so it's not 
>argument any more. But simply moving features between products takes us time, 
>risk of regressions and gives no short term benefits. So although there's 
>consensus in Zend that we could contribute back to PDT, it's hard to actually 
>find time for that.


In short term, until October we're very busy with next Zend Studio, but as part 
of that we want to get formatter better (bug 320130) and improve debugger. 
After that, we'll be more into bug fixing and planning next year, it'll be also 
good time to give more love to PDT. By the end of the year we're also migrating 
PDT to Git and probably change it's build system.


Does this answer your questions?



Jacek


________________________________
From: pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] on behalf of 
Robert Gründler [r.gruend...@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 July 2012 16:13
To: PDT Developers
Subject: [pdt-dev] Future of PDT development

Dear PDT team,

we are a group of PDT extenders who are working on the following plugins:

http://www.phpsrc.org/projects/pti-php-codesniffer/wiki/
http://www.phpsrc.org/projects/pti-phpunit/wiki/
http://www.phpsrc.org/projects/pti-phpdepend/wiki/
http://www.phpsrc.org/projects/pti-phpcpd/wiki/
http://www.phpsrc.org/projects/pti-php-checker/wiki/
http://www.php-maven.org/branches/2.0-SNAPSHOT/tut-usingeclipse.html
http://symfony.dubture.com/
http://twig.dubture.com/
http://pde.dubture.com/



We think that Eclipse is a great development platform, however PDT lacked some 
basic features, which is the reason why we started working on extensions to 
overcome limitations like


  *   Code formatting
  *   Refactoring (getter/setter generation, renaming of variables, etc)
  *   PHPUnit integration
  *   Codesniffer support
  *   Proper support for object oriented projects (Class generator, validation, 
etc)


As we are now thinking about joining those efforts into a single pdt-extension 
platform, we’d like to get some feedback from the PDT development team 
regarding the future of PDT itself.

In our view there have been no feature enhancements in PDT for quite some time, 
especially regarding some of those base features mentioned above.

As most of those features are implemented in Zend-Studio but not in PDT, we are 
wondering what’s the rationale behind keeping those features closed source. A 
lot of the Zend-Studio features are available through our contributions on an 
open-source basis. In our opinion it would be better for both PDT and 
Zend-Studio if the basic featureset of PDT could compare with that of other 
editors of scripting-languages in Eclipse and/or competing IDEs.

So basically we would like to get some info about the future strategy of Zend 
regarding PDT and the open-source community (fyi: we've tried to collect all 
known pdt extensions so far in our wiki  [1] )


regards

-robert



[1] https://github.com/PHPsrc/wiki/wiki/PDT-Extension-project-list
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