Hi Jacek,

These are great news! I would love to see the PHPUnit, the Debugger and
other features integration open-source'd so I could join the force and fix
few annoying bugs and regressions I noticed in recent versions.

It would be great to have more info about the topic in this mailing list
(or elsewhere in public).

Regards,
Seva Lapsha
Author of PHPUnit @ Zend Studio

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Jacek Pospychała <jace...@zend.com> wrote:

>  Hi Robert,
>
> it's great to hear about your plans. We always enjoyed seeing new plugins
> for PDT as this confirms there's strong PHP community around Eclipse. I'm
> even more happy now to hear that there's more to come.
>
> Where can I follow your current discussion to better understand what
> you're planning/doing? Why not discuss or even develop this pdt-extension
> platform directly in PDT?
>
>
>  From Zend pov, in the past the features that you mention were supposed
> to differentiate PDT and Zend Studio. Nowadays Zend Studio has gone in
> slightly different direction, and also more free alternatives popped up, so
> it's not argument any more. But simply moving features between products
> takes us time, risk of regressions and gives no short term benefits. So
> although there's consensus in Zend that we could contribute back to PDT,
> it's hard to actually find time for that.
>
>
>  In short term, until October we're very busy with next Zend Studio, but
> as part of that we want to get formatter better (bug 320130) and improve
> debugger. After that, we'll be more into bug fixing and planning next year,
> it'll be also good time to give more love to PDT. By the end of the year
> we're also migrating PDT to Git and probably change it's build system.
>
>
>  Does this answer your questions?
>
>
>
>  Jacek
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [pdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] on
> behalf of Robert Gründler [r.gruend...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 10 July 2012 16:13
> *To:* PDT Developers
> *Subject:* [pdt-dev] Future of PDT development
>
>  Dear PDT team,
>
> we are a group of PDT extenders who are working on the following plugins:
>
> http://www.phpsrc.org/projects/pti-php-codesniffer/wiki/
> http://www.phpsrc.org/projects/pti-phpunit/wiki/
> http://www.phpsrc.org/projects/pti-phpdepend/wiki/
> http://www.phpsrc.org/projects/pti-phpcpd/wiki/
> http://www.phpsrc.org/projects/pti-php-checker/wiki/
> http://www.php-maven.org/branches/2.0-SNAPSHOT/tut-usingeclipse.html
> http://symfony.dubture.com/
> http://twig.dubture.com/
> http://pde.dubture.com/
>
>
>
> We think that Eclipse is a great development platform, however PDT lacked
> some basic features, which is the reason why we started working on
> extensions to overcome limitations like
>
>
>    - Code formatting
>    - Refactoring (getter/setter generation, renaming of variables, etc)
>    - PHPUnit integration
>    - Codesniffer support
>    - Proper support for object oriented projects (Class generator,
>    validation, etc)
>
>
>
> As we are now thinking about joining those efforts into a single
> pdt-extension platform, we’d like to get some feedback from the PDT
> development team regarding the future of PDT itself.
>
> In our view there have been no feature enhancements in PDT for quite some
> time, especially regarding some of those base features mentioned above.
>
> As most of those features are implemented in Zend-Studio but not in PDT,
> we are wondering what’s the rationale behind keeping those features closed
> source. A lot of the Zend-Studio features are available through our
> contributions on an open-source basis. In our opinion it would be better
> for both PDT and Zend-Studio if the basic featureset of PDT could compare
> with that of other editors of scripting-languages in Eclipse and/or
> competing IDEs.
>
> So basically we would like to get some info about the future strategy of
> Zend regarding PDT and the open-source community (fyi: we've tried to
> collect all known pdt extensions so far in our wiki  [1] )
>
>
> regards
>
> -robert
>
>
>
> [1] https://github.com/PHPsrc/wiki/wiki/PDT-Extension-project-list
>
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