On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 22:41 -0700, Joshua Schmidlkofer wrote: > MJang wrote: > > Seems like the bitkeeper talk was a bit understated - Perens is quoted > > as calling Linus an unpleasant name on this topic - > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/15/perens_on_torvalds/
> First off - it's "The Register", admittedly the "Weekly World News" of the > tech community. Second - has anyone actually > verified this? Third, last that I heard he is a bloody Debian maintainer, > and I think that says a lot in this regard. You could be right - this is apparantly a long-standing dispute: http://www.linuxworld.com/story/32618.htm http://kerneltrap.org/node/204/497 However, the quote from Perens is consistent with his comments on /. http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/06/140202&from=rss Based on what I see here http://www.screaming-penguin.com/main.php?viewclass=32 It sounds like Perens' thought OSDL should have fired Tridge for his work on SourcePuller. Thanks, Mike > > I am looking for the actual emails in question. However, it's pretty > retarded of Bruce to say "BitKeeper was foisted on > to kernel developers" if he did say it. It is consistent with his comments (if they were his) on /. > So, I find these quotes highly suspect. I would like some aimslist or some > other e-mail archive evidence on all sides > before I believe that this is a huge problem. It smells like hit-generation > / ad-sales fodder. It does seem to be working. The traffic is increasing, and even CNET is quoting the Register now http://news.com.com/Torvalds+looking+for+new+Linux +home/2100-7344_3-5660566.html?tag=nefd.lede > > I also heard what Greg said last night: > > a. The general consensus [among maintainer, i.e. people responsible for > continuing development] is problems w/ > management @ OSDL. Perens seems to disagree, per his comments on /. Whether anyone should listen is a different question. > > b. Regardless of intent or screw up, Tridge did seemingly manage to > single-handedly stop kernel development for two > weeks already. Larry, OSDL, Tridge and Linus at some point have all made > decisions assisting in reaching this end. > However, if anything is childish and immature - it's responding to stupidity > w/ stupidity. If OSDL could have > commercially licensed BitKeeper for every single kernel developer worldwide > for a reasonable amount of money, that would > have been a good idea. Then the reverse engineering of the protocol would > have been legal anyway. At that point it is > a legally protected right. Furthermore, according to Larry the lionshare of > his business is with Windows users. I couldn't find anything online confirming what we heard w/r/t Tridge - do you have any links? Thanks, Mike _______________________________________________ PDXLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdxlug IRC: irc.freenode.net #pdxlug
