>>>>> "Matt" == Matt King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Russell> This has been debunked several times. PLUG never stopped Russell> using "Portland Linux User Group". It just started using Russell> another name _too_. I have pointed people at the wayback Russell> machine's history of the PLUG Clinic website that Russell> demonstrates as much. I have described the meeting at which Russell> the new name appeared. The timing of the July 2003 Russell> registration is not relevant, it just codified previous Russell> practice. Matt> The only reason I think a name change would be good is not to Matt> relieve this perceived "confusion" about Portland LUGs. It's to Matt> make Russell Senior stop whining and complaining and polluting Matt> the list with his argumentative, repetative, unrelenting Matt> rhetoric. My goal here has been to keep the record straight. Mostly, I have just been responding to people's misunderstanding. If it is repetitive it is only because of persistent misunderstanding. Matt> Russell is lucky he hasn't gotten banned from the list, if I had Matt> control over it I would have by now. I'd just note here that my contributions to this thread amount to about 1/10 of the volume. The noise is mostly (9/10th on a per-article volume basis, probably more on a per-line basis) emanating from other sources. I would hope that you'd apply your ban-hammer on some reasonable basis. Matt> [...] but PDXLUG's "mission" (if you can call it that) Matt> was not to be a public service, but just a group of people who Matt> were into Linux and Open Source, getting together to talk about Matt> it and geek out. Okay. Matt> No clinics, no projects, not even stuff like an Matt> OSCON booth. That's it. Don't think of it any other way. Er, but PDXLUG *does* have an OSCON booth! Seems some PDXLUGers have a different idea about it. Matt> PDXLUG is not here to teach newbies how to use Linux, although Matt> if someone came in to a meeting and had questions, we would Matt> answer them, but that is not really the focal point of the Matt> group. The distinction made in PLUGs monthly meeting Matt> announcements that PDXLUG is a "less formal alternative to PLUG Matt> emphasizing the needs of new users" is dead wrong. I am sure PLUG will change their description if they receive a patch. Matt> Unfortunately PDXLUG meetings break down into discussions about Matt> bad blood between the two groups. I think it's time to get rid Matt> of the name so meetings are actually fun to go to and not a Matt> place to gossip about something that happened 2 YEARS AGO. Fun is good. -- Russell Senior ``I have nine fingers; you have ten.'' [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ PDXLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdxlug IRC: irc.freenode.net #pdxlug
