Defaulting to Letter paper size is definitely a problem. Here in the Europe
we use the "metric" letter size, I'm very happy Protel DXP takes that into
account now and defaults to A4. I checked the latest DXP version for a
global default choice, but I didn't find any. It's still adjustable only in
the printer setup menu. No choice for setting a default. I agree, it would
be a labor saving improvement if it gave the choice. I'm happy with the A4
setting, though, and would complain if they changed it back to Letter. ;-)
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Kind regards
Gisbert Auge
N.A.T. GmbH
www.nateurope.com
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Defaulting to A4 paper size is definitely a problem with at least the early
versions of DXP. I don't
know about 99SE, I skipped that release. The problem is not caused by other
people on the network
changing printing preferences, it is specific to DXP. Here in the US we use
the "imperial" letter
size, but Protel DXP constantly defaults to A4, and if you overlook that,
you keep sending print
jobs to a letter size printer, and it doesn't handle the print job
correctly. Don't know if the
latest DXP version implements a global default choice that fixes that, but
it would be a huge labor
saving improvement if it did.
Best regards,
Kerry Berland
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Silicon Engines
3550 West Salt Creek Lane
Suite 105
Arlington Heights, IL 60005 USA
Phone 847-637-1180 Ext. 223
Fax 847-637-1185
www.siliconengines.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Brad
> Velander
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:11 AM
> To: Protel EDA Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Default paper size
>
> Chris,
> Protel printing is no pain for me. I typically use either of two
networked HP laser printers
> and Adobe PDFWriter continuously (presently and at my previous employer).
>
> I don't know if you saw my other comments back a while ago (it
may have been in this same
> thread). Having used P99SE for the past 6 years, I just don't know where
these complaints are
> coming from. I have never had Protel default to a metric sized page,
never had it default to a
> size not supported by the selected printer (I wish PDF Writer supported
"11x17" pages instead of
> calling them "Tabloid", thus requiring I reset the page size when I
switch to PDFs from actual
> paper prints, but this is minor). Typically print preview 'always' comes
up either on a letter
> sized portrait page (initial Print Preview) or the last printer/page size
that had been saved
> within the Print Preview file if it was saved. So my singular complaint
in 6 years is regarding
> Adobe's naming of 11x17 page sizes as Tabloid, nothing to do with P99SE
or Protel at all.
>
> I would have to think after years of hearing a small group of
users complain of this problem
> consistently, that we are dealing with something that is not directly
P99SE related. It would seem
> to me to be some other printer, software, driver or operating system
interference. From your
> description it sounds like that list should possibly include stupid
co-workers.
>
> Sincerely,
> Brad Velander
> Senior PCB Designer
> Northern Airborne Technology
> #14 - 1925 Kirschner Road,
> Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
> tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225
> fax (250) 762-3374
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Mogford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:12 PM
> To: Protel EDA Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Default paper size
>
>
>
> Printing seems to be a universal pain in the butt.
> I continually get annoyed because of the defaults going to Letter or B or
> some other weird page size instead of standard metric A3,A4 sizes. This
is
> particularly annoying when creating pdfs from protel(and other programs)
> and find someone hasn't fixed their default and the printer has stalled
> because it can't find the odd sized Letter paper.
> Windows and other programs always default to the unwanted imperial system
> when installed so we have to make a conscious effort to correct default
> page sizes. Many users in our company don't bother to set their pcs
> correctly and of course odd page sizes abound on the net.
> Being able to remove unwanted page sizes from printer drivers and page
> setups would be a wonderful thing.
> A printer should be able to talk to the program showing the actual paper
> size inserted and the appropriate resizing (if required).
>
> Perhaps one day....:( Maybe M$ Vista?
>
> Chris
>
>
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Kerry Berland
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3550 West Salt Creek Lane
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Fax 847-637-1185
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Brad
> Velander
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:11 AM
> To: Protel EDA Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Default paper size
>
> Chris,
> Protel printing is no pain for me. I typically use either of two
networked HP laser printers
> and Adobe PDFWriter continuously (presently and at my previous employer).
>
> I don't know if you saw my other comments back a while ago (it
may have been in this same
> thread). Having used P99SE for the past 6 years, I just don't know where
these complaints are
> coming from. I have never had Protel default to a metric sized page,
never had it default to a
> size not supported by the selected printer (I wish PDF Writer supported
"11x17" pages instead of
> calling them "Tabloid", thus requiring I reset the page size when I
switch to PDFs from actual
> paper prints, but this is minor). Typically print preview 'always' comes
up either on a letter
> sized portrait page (initial Print Preview) or the last printer/page size
that had been saved
> within the Print Preview file if it was saved. So my singular complaint
in 6 years is regarding
> Adobe's naming of 11x17 page sizes as Tabloid, nothing to do with P99SE
or Protel at all.
>
> I would have to think after years of hearing a small group of
users complain of this problem
> consistently, that we are dealing with something that is not directly
P99SE related. It would seem
> to me to be some other printer, software, driver or operating system
interference. From your
> description it sounds like that list should possibly include stupid
co-workers.
>
> Sincerely,
> Brad Velander
> Senior PCB Designer
> Northern Airborne Technology
> #14 - 1925 Kirschner Road,
> Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
> tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225
> fax (250) 762-3374
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Mogford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:12 PM
> To: Protel EDA Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Default paper size
>
>
>
> Printing seems to be a universal pain in the butt.
> I continually get annoyed because of the defaults going to Letter or B or
> some other weird page size instead of standard metric A3,A4 sizes. This
is
> particularly annoying when creating pdfs from protel(and other programs)
> and find someone hasn't fixed their default and the printer has stalled
> because it can't find the odd sized Letter paper.
> Windows and other programs always default to the unwanted imperial system
> when installed so we have to make a conscious effort to correct default
> page sizes. Many users in our company don't bother to set their pcs
> correctly and of course odd page sizes abound on the net.
> Being able to remove unwanted page sizes from printer drivers and page
> setups would be a wonderful thing.
> A printer should be able to talk to the program showing the actual paper
> size inserted and the appropriate resizing (if required).
>
> Perhaps one day....:( Maybe M$ Vista?
>
> Chris
>
>
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