Gary F, List,

My proposal was to follow Kant, and to characterize the difference in terms of 
the way the methods presuppose and answer to the question:  why should I be 
logical?  Following Kant, I think the methods of tenacity and authority methods 
appeal to ends and incentives that are material and subjective.  That is the 
proposal, although some may think it is not sufficient.

--Jeff

Jeff Downard
Associate Professor
Department of Philosophy
NAU
(o) 523-8354
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From: Gary Fuhrman [g...@gnusystems.ca]
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 6:55 AM
To: 'Peirce List'
Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: de Waal Seminar: Chapter 6, Philosophy of Science

I'm inclined to agree with Jeff D. that "random" doesn't really capture the
quality common to the first two methods - but I can't think of a single
positive word that does, and I don't think Jeff has proposed one either.
"Insistent" maybe? "Imperative"?

I think "random" will do in a thumbnail sketch of the four methods, as long
as we read it as the opposite of "reasonable" (but still open to
rationalizing).

gary f.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Brian Downard [mailto:jeffrey.down...@nau.edu]
Sent: 2-May-14 7:39 PM
Cc: Peirce List
Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: de Waal Seminar: Chapter 6, Philosophy of
Science

Gary R., Gary F., Cathy, List

Having pointed to an alternate basis for classifying the other methods for
fixing belief, let me offer a comment on your suggestion.  The methods of
tenacity and authority need not be random.  In fact, great effort in
reasoning can be spent defending one's own beliefs against evidence to the
contrary, and similar efforts can be spent defending those held by the
authorities that be.

Instead of focusing on a lack of direction in those methods, I would
recommend focusing on the instrumental way in which the the reasoning is
being construed.  The a priori method purports to hold higher ends, but
contrary to what it is often asserted in defense of this method, it too
treats the rules as instrumental in character.  The advantage of the
alternate reconstruction I am recommending is that it recognizes that these
alternatives treat the requirements of valid reasoning as prudential and not
moral requirements.  The distinction between methods based on principles of
prudence and the one method that treats the requirements of logic as ethical
obligations does help to articulate Peirce's point in moralizing at the end
of the essay--such as when he says that what is more wholesome than any
belief is integrity of belief.  What is more, it helps to makes sense of the
suggestions in the text that, for these other methods, the requirements are
all held to be conditional.

--Jeff

Jeff Downard
Associate Professor
Department of Philosophy
NAU
(o) 523-8354
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From: Gary Richmond [gary.richm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 1:51 PM
To: Gary Fuhrman
Cc: Peirce List
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: de Waal Seminar: Chapter 6, Philosophy of
Science

Gary, Cathy, list,

So, slightly modifying Cathy's list in consideration of Gary F's comments we
get (and, personally, with an eye to introducing these methods to students):

Method of Tenacity: private, random
Method of Authority: public, random
Method of Consensus: public, reasoned
Method of Science: public, reasoned and tested

Best,

Gary R.

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