Phyllis, all,

Ah, so Peirce changes his mind as to the subdivisions he will make of
abduction and induction as he delves ever deeper into these in the N.A.,
there in consideration of *inquiry*, not merely as forms of *inference*.
But I see no evidence in the N.A. (or elsewhere) that he changed his mind
about the *categoriality *of induction and deduction. Are you saying that
you see him changing his mind yet again in that regard, Phyllis?

Best,

Gary


*Gary Richmond*
*Philosophy and Critical Thinking*
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On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Phyllis Chiasson <ath...@olympus.net>
wrote:

> Gary R wrote:that Induction split, at once, into the Sampling of
> Collections, and the Sampling of Qualities. . . " (*Pragmatism as a
> Principle and Method of Right Thinking: The 1903 Harvard Lectures on
> Pragmatism*, Turrisi, ed. 276-7).
>
> Yet later, in1908 in NA, Peirce identified 1. Retro. 2 deduction types
> (theorematic & axiomatic sp?) And 3 kinds of induction (crude, qualitative,
> quantitative).
>
> Phyllis
>
>
>
> Gary Richmond <gary.richm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *Helmut, Cathy, Josh, Mary, lists, *
>
>
> *On several occasions over the years I've taken up the matter of the 
> categorial assignations Peirce gave deduction and induction, the most recent 
> being a peirce-l post of March, 2012, in response to Cathy Legg writing: "I 
> don't see how one might interpret induction as secondness though. Though a 
> *misplaced* induction may well lead to the secondness of surprise due to 
> error." 
> https://www.mail-archive.com/peirce-l@listserv.iupui.edu/msg00747.html 
> <https://www.mail-archive.com/peirce-l@listserv.iupui.edu/msg00747.html>*
>
>
> *So, this is a subject which clearly keeps coming up, most recently by you, 
> Helmut, while a couple of weeks ago Cathy and Josh Black, at the Peirce 
> Centennial Congress at U.Mass--or more precisely, on the way from that 
> Congress to Milford, PA, where a group of us placed a plaque commemorating 
> that Congress on a wall of Arisbe, Peirce's home there--both held for 
> induction as 3ns and deduction as 2ns, while I've been arguing, as has Mary 
> Libertin on the biosemiotics list recently, just the reverse, that, except 
> for a brief lapse (discusses below), Peirce saw induction as 2ns and 
> deduction as 3ns. *
>
>
> *One can find in Patricia Ann Turrisi's edition of the 1903 Harvard Lectures 
> on Pragmatism notes for "Lecture 5: The Normative Sciences" a long note (#3) 
> from which the following excerpt gives an account of Peirce's lapse (his 
> brief change of mind in the categorial assignations), the reason for it, and 
> his late tendency to more or less settle his opinion again as deduction being 
> 3ns and induction 2ns. He writes:*
>
> *"Abduction, or the suggestion of an explanatory theory, is inference*
>
> *through an Icon, and is thus connected with Firstness; Induction, or*
>
> *trying how things will act, is inference through an Index, and is thus*
>
> *connected with Secondness; Deduction, or recognition of the relations*
>
> *of general ideas, is inference through a Symbol, and is thus connected*
>
> *with Thirdness. . . [My] connection of Abduction with Firstness,*
>
> *Induction with Secondness, and Deduction with Thirdness was confirmed*
>
> *by my finding no essential subdivisions of Abduction; that Induction*
>
> *split, at once, into the Sampling of Collections, and the Sampling of*
>
> *Qualities. . . " (*Pragmatism as a Principle and Method of Right*
>
> *Thinking: The 1903 Harvard Lectures on Pragmatism*, Turrisi, ed.*
>
> *276-7).*
>
> *
> Shortly after this he comments on his brief period of "confusion" in the 
> matter.
>
> *
>
> *"[In] the book called *Studies in Logic by Members of the Johns*
>
> *Hopkins University*, while I stated the rationale of induction pretty*
>
> *well, I confused Abduction with the Second kind of Induction, that is*
>
> *the induction of qualities. Subsequently, writing in the seventh*
>
> *volume of the Monist, sensible of the error of that book but not quite*
>
> *understanding in what it consisted I stated the rationale of Induction*
>
> *in a manner more suitable to Abduction, and still later in lectures*
>
> *here in Cambridge I represented Induction to be connected with the*
>
> *third category and Deduction with the Second" [op. cit, 277].*
>
> *
> In the sense that for a few years Peirce was "confused" about
> these categorial associations of the inference patterns, he is at
> least partially at fault in creating confusion in the minds of many
> scholars about the categorial associations of the three inference
> patterns. Still, he finally sees the error of his ways and corrects himself:
>
> *
>
> *At present [1903] I am somewhat disposed to revert to my*
>
> *original opinion.*
>
>
> *And yet he adds that he "will leave the question undecided." *
>
>
> *Still, after 1903 he never again associates deduction with
> anything but 3ns, nor induction with anything but 2ns. *
>
>
> *As I wrote in 2012:
>
> *
>
> *GR: I myself have never been able to think of deduction as anything but*
>
> *thirdness, nor induction as anything but 2ns, and I think that I*
>
> *mainly have stuck to that way of thinking because when, in*
>
> *methodeutic, Peirce employs the three categories together in*
>
> *consideration of a "complete inquiry"--as he does, for example, very*
>
> *late in life in *The Neglected Argument for the Reality of God* in the*
>
> *section the CP editors titled "The Three Stages of Inquiry" [CP 6.468*
>
> *- 6.473; also, EP 2:440 - 442]--he *explicitly* associates abduction*
>
> *(here, 'retroduction', of the hypothesis) with 1ns, deduction (of the*
>
> *retroduction's implications for the purposes of devising tests of it)*
>
> *with 3ns, and induction (as the inductive testing once devised) with*
>
> *2ns.*
>
> *
>
> Best,
>
> Gary*
>
>
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