I agree with Edwina about the book. One effort to discuss was cut off by
Stephens J.'s peremptory dismissal of my effort. I regard that and other
incidents as a sign that I should probably not try to say much at all.

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On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Edwina Taborsky <tabor...@primus.ca> wrote:

>  Ben, I'm going to disagree with your view that in order to discuss the
> basic issue of your book, namely, your attempt to correlate the rise of
> Hitler with abductive logic - that it requires that we either buy your book
> or read it.
>
> I think that on a Peirce-list, the members ought to have a reasonable
> reading knowledge of Peirce's works, but I don't think that a research
> topic dealt with by a member requires that members of this list read that
> member's work. My view is that it is incumbent on YOU, to provide members
> with a reasonably thorough precis of the salient points of your argument.
>
> With regard to the points you have so far provided, my concern is that you
> seem to be trying to imbue Hitler's rise to power with some 'magical' or
> mystical element.
>
> For example, you claim that when his party took power, German politics
> consisted of 28 parties - why was Hitler's dominant? In Canada, at the
> federal level, there are 26 political parties - and there is nothing
> particularly magical or surprising that only three are dominant. There are
> about 30 minor political parties in the US. Only two-three are dominant.
>
> Second, my concern is your method of explaining this history. You seem to
> be using what is known as the 'Great Man Theory' of historical analysis,
> which examines history by focusing on the charisma or whatever of some
> singular causal individual. I consider this a weak analytic frame; I prefer
> the 'long duree' framework of the 'Annales' school (eg, Braudel), which
> considers infrastructural causality such as the population size, economic
> mode, technological capacity, trade relations etc...rather than individuals.
>
> As for fascism, it is an ideology of the mind, i.e., it is not rooted in
> pragmatic reality but in a notion of utopian purity of the past, such that
> 'if only we returned to that pure mode', then, all would be well. It is now
> rampant in the Al Qaeda (from the 19th c!) and ISIS of the MENA. There are,
> I maintain, population and economic reasons for the refusal of these
> populations and governments to deal with the pragmatic problems of the area
> and the  resultant retreat into fascism.
>
> Same with Germany of the 1930s. And, once an infrastructure is set up,
> e,g, National Socialism's Third Reich, it is extremely difficult to move
> out of the rhetoric and back down to hard reality. That requires an
> external intervention. Certainly, internally, some tried to stop Hitler -
>
> As for Hitler being logical - what??? I think some examples would be
> helpful. His behaviour around Stalingrad was hardly logical.
>
> Is the popularity of various cult figures, of wealthy preachers, of  due
> to their being logical? Or for some other reason(s)?
>
> What is abductive about Hitler's 'reasoning'?
>
> Again, my view - and I say it is my view - is that the onus for
> explanation of a topic is not to have readers buy your book or read it
> online, but for you to explain key points to us - and then, explain why you
> align it with Peircean theory.
>
> Edwina
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ben Novak <trevriz...@gmail.com>
> *To:* Stephen Jarosek <sjaro...@iinet.net.au>
> *Cc:* Stephen C. Rose <stever...@gmail.com> ; Peirce List
> <Peirce-L@list.iupui.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 5:12 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic
>
> Dear Respondents:
>
> Several of the responses show how highly charged the subject of Hitler is.
> In that light, I really appreciate Helmut Raulien's comment:
>
> "Read Ben Novak's dissertation first, Id say: It is really suspensefully
> written, like a detective story, and very enlightening." Thank you, Helmut,
>
> But for those who may find the subject distasteful, I feel I have to
> explain why it is nevertheless important, and why it is important for me to 
> solicit
> the views of those dedicated to the study of Peirce.
>
> * * *
>
> The essential question that my book seeks to investigate is "Why was it
> that Hitler--of all people--was politically successful?" Let us hone in on
> this question. When Hitler joined the tiny German Workers Party in 1919,
> over 50 other political parties were formed in Munich alone, and 178
> throughout Germany as a whole. This begs the question: What was there about
> Hitler that enabled him and his party to outdistance all the other parties
> and become the major force on the Right in Bavaria by 1923?
>
> By the same token, in the Reichstag election of 1930 when Hitler broke
> through a leader of the second largest party in Germany, there were 28
> parties on the ballot, the 4 major parties, and 24 smaller parties, each of
> which hoped to break through because of he the onset of the Depression.  In
> the election results, Hitler and his party left all those other parties in
> the dust.
>
> One cannot say that this was the product of conditions--the conditions
> were the same for all the parties. The question that I wanted to
> investigate was this: Why was Hitler able to take advantage of the
> conditions (that were the same for all parties) better than anyone else?  I
> devote the first chapter of my book to presenting the failure of scholars
> up to this point in giving a meaningful answer to that question.  Thus H.
> R. Trevor Roper wrote way back in 1953:
>
> Who was Hitler? The history of his political career is abundantly
> documented and we cannot escape from its terrible effects. And yet, … how
> elusive his character remains! What he did is clear; every detail of his
> political activity is now—thanks to a seizure of documents unparalleled in
> history—historically established; his daily life and personal behavior have
> been examined and exposed. But still, when asked not what he did but how he
> did it, or rather how he was able to do it, historians evade the question,
> sliding away behind implausible answers.
>
> In 1998, nearly half a century later, Ron Rosenbaum in *Explaining Hitler* 
> confirmed
> that no progress had been made:
> Rosenbaum describes the same two unanswered questions as (1) “The real
> search for Hitler—the search for who he was”, and (2) “the question of his
> advent and success,” and the failure of historians to answer them as the 
> biggest
> mysteries of the century:
>
> Is it conceivable, more than half a century after Hitler’s death, after
> all that has been written and said, that we are still wandering in this
> trackless wilderness, this garden of forking paths, with no sight of our
> quarry?  Or, rather, alas, with too many quarries: the search for Hitler
> has apprehended not one coherent, consensus image of Hitler, but rather
> many different Hitlers, competing embodiments of competing visions, Hitlers
> who might not recognize each other well enough to say “Heil!” if they
> came face to face in Hell.
>
> What has not been dealt with is the question of what was there about this
> man, and what was different about his approach to politics, that made him
> so much more attractive and successful than any of the others? What was his
> "secret," or his "trick"? So far, historians simply confess they don't know.
>
> This was the challenge I took up in my dissertation. I spent fourteen
> years researching it, thanks to a very patient dissertation committee.
>
> I began with a clue: Konrad Heiden was a journalist who covered Hitler
> from the very beginning of his career, and wrote the first books warning
> the world of the danger of this man, whom he called "the greatest
> mass-disturber in world history". Nevertheless, in his first book, *The
> History of National Socialism*, where Heiden asks:  "What natural gifts
> determined Hitler's fate?" His answer is quite surprising. What
> distinguishes Hitler from the others, Heiden writes, is "quite a different
> characteristic than demagogic  sureness of aim--namely logic."  Indeed,
> Heiden writes, "His utterly logical way of thought is Hitler's strength.."
>
> How could logic be the basis of Hitler's strength, i.e., his political
> success? That is the challenge I undertook: to find out how this man could
> be conceived of as logical at all. But by this time, I was thoroughly
> familiar with Sherlock Holmes dictum: "We must fall back upon the old axiom
> that when all other contingencies fail, whatever remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
>
> I won't go through the long process, but eventually I discovered Umberto
> Eco and Thomas Sebeok, *The Sign of Three, *and from that, Peirce. . Then
> it all fell into place. The power of Hitler's oratory and ideas stemmed
> from abduction. As the first person to apply adductive logic to politics,
> it should then come as no surprise that he rose to power in "The Golden Age
> of the Detective Novel.'
>
> I am not going to go further into it here, for that is the purpose of the
> book.  You can read a copy of my dissertation at the site Mara Woods found:
>
> http://access.cjh.org/home.php?type=extid&term=1055795#1
>
> and you can read about 70 pages of the published book by clicking on the
> picture of the book at Amazon:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Hitler-Abductive-Logic-Strategy-Tyrant/dp/0739192248
>
> or simply buy the book.
>
> I would be extremely grateful to hear from Peircean experts on my handling
> of the logic.
>
> I also dare to hope that some one of you may perhaps write a review of the
> book for Transactions or some other publication--since I hope that what I
> present in this work may be of broader interest, and that if I am judged
> successful in solving the problems I set out, that such a book will quicken
> greater interest in Charles Sanders Peirce and the logic of abduction.
>
> Thanks to all who have responded so far.
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
> *Ben Novak <http://bennovak.net>*
> 5129 Taylor Drive, Ave Maria, FL 34142
> Telephones:
>  Magic Jack: (717) 826-5224 *Best to call and leave messages.*
> Landline: 239-455-4200 *My brother's main phone line.*
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>
> *"All art is mortal, **not merely the individual artifacts, but the arts
> themselves.* *One day the last portrait of Rembrandt* *and the last bar
> of Mozart will have ceased to be — **though possibly a colored canvas and
> a sheet of notes may remain — **because the last eye and the last ear
> accessible to their message **will have gone." *Oswald Spengler
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Stephen Jarosek <sjaro...@iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
>
>>  Stephen, you make my point impeccably. ‘nuff said ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Stephen C. Rose [mailto:stever...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 9 July 2015 5:27 PM
>> *To:* Stephen Jarosek; Peirce List
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic
>>
>>
>>
>> Again this topic is too huge and important to allow any generalization to
>> stand without question. Consider our mentor Peirce. Here I will place in
>> quotes the statements in this post that I find questionable:
>>
>>
>>
>> "a new kind of totalitarianism."
>>
>>
>>
>> "how benign and “normal” evil can be."
>>
>>
>>
>> "internet, drones in the sky, a hedonistic cultural narrative that
>> conceals secret opinions and hidden agendas, political correctness, and so
>> on."
>>
>>
>>
>> "History really is repeating, and it’s not just a figure of speech:"
>>
>>
>>
>> "the smug besuited receive accolades for their progressive initiatives"
>>
>>
>>
>> "evil is not some other place or some other time. It is here and it is
>> now."
>>
>>
>>
>> Briefly, I see evil as harm and measurable. There is some possibility
>> that it is being addressed more now than in the past. Evil is neither
>> benign nor normal. It has grades from the worst which is killing to the
>> more modest which rises from selfishness and thoughtlessness. Political
>> correctness is entirely contextual and hardly wrong in many circumstances.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lumping things into a litany simply mandates, if we are willing, a
>> discussion of each element. I think the Internet is a plus. The evil done
>> by drones is measurable and relative. "And do on" implies an unending
>> jeremiad and reminds me a bit of Christopher Lasch or the current
>> perorations of Chris Hedges. Neither in my view are particularly salient in
>> understanding where we are and where we are going.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are not particularly awash in progressive developments, more's the
>> pity.
>>
>>
>>
>> History does not repeat to the point that we can speak of eternal return.
>> Time is chronological, continuity is reality and fallibility is in my view
>> a more accurate description of conditions than the word evil.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, S
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Books http://buff.ly/15GfdqU Art: http://buff.ly/1wXAxbl
>>
>> Gifts: http://buff.ly/1wXADj3
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Stephen Jarosek <sjaro...@iinet.net.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Edwina wrote:
>>
>> “...well, fascism is hardly new. And the current Islamic fascism and ISIS
>> in the Middle East and Africa is our modern example of the Third Reich.”
>>
>> Frequently, people write as if fascism is in the past, or in other
>> cultures but not our own. I personally suspect that we are witnessing the
>> emergence of a new kind of totalitarianism. We are IN it and so we are in a
>> position, if we step back calmly, to observe how benign and “normal” evil
>> can be. What was that phrase... “the banality of evil.” THIS one is
>> scary... internet, drones in the sky, a hedonistic cultural narrative that
>> conceals secret opinions and hidden agendas, political correctness, and so
>> on.  History really is repeating, and it’s not just a figure of speech:
>>
>>
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/fox-news-host-meygan-kelly-asks-what-about-mens-rights-after-yesmeansyes-sexual-consent-law-is-signed-in-new-york-10375817.html?icn=puff-3
>>
>> Are we being melodramatic if we suggest that we are seeing precisely the
>> same tactics that were employed by the Nazis in dehumanising their victims?
>> But let us be careful here... these are men (ultimately) doing it to men...
>> it’s a kind of gendercide by cowards, no blood need be shed, while the smug
>> besuited receive accolades for their progressive initiatives. So speaking
>> for myself, I have little sympathy for men, given that they are both the
>> doers and the doees (who allow it to happen)... it’s complicated, and it is
>> cultural (not gender). But the bottom line is that no, evil is not some
>> other place or some other time. It is here and it is now. Welcome to the
>> zombie apocalypse.
>>
>> sj
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Stephen C. Rose [mailto:stever...@gmail.com <stever...@gmail.com>]
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 7 July 2015 5:30 PM
>> *To:* Edwina Taborsky; Peirce List
>> *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic
>>
>>
>>
>> This is interesting in itself. It could stand alone as something to
>> discuss. There are many angles. There is the intriguing idea that something
>> economic creates thuggery (I am condensing) and the assumption that the
>> emotions behind evil actions are stronger than those what might tend toward
>> reason, sweetness and light. I do not have any fixed opinion. What I like
>> the idea of fixing is how to deal with minnows in a forum such as this.
>> They slither about and we need to find a way to catch them and let them
>> grow into conversations which have the benefit of not merely noting
>> interesting things but allowing them to mature into conclusions that no one
>> had before the conversation began.
>>
>>
>>     Books http://buff.ly/15GfdqU Art: http://buff.ly/1wXAxbl
>>
>> Gifts: http://buff.ly/1wXADj3
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Edwina Taborsky <tabor...@primus.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It is a fascinating topic but is it really as mysterious as Ben Novak
>> claims? After all, the idea of fascism, an ideology that assumes a previous
>> lost purity and perfection of life within a societal order, ...and declares
>> that IF this purity-of-behaviour/belief can be reinserted into the society,
>> THEN, perfection of life will ensue...well, fascism is hardly new. And the
>> current Islamic fascism and ISIS in the Middle East and Africa is our
>> modern example of the Third Reich.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd say that such an ideology emerges in a population that has moved
>> beyond the carrying capacity of its economic mode; the resultant imbalance
>> and the inability of the govt to remedy this, results in an alienation of
>> people from reality and a movement into irrationalism and emotion. These
>> emotions are primal, far more basic than reason and science; so, thugs and
>> violence will never disappear.
>>
>>
>>
>> So - the belief emerges, within the Peircean abductive 'a priori' (this
>> fascist way of life will work!)..and rather than moving on to that
>> ideology being evaluated by the scientific method, it is stopped in its
>> tracks. The ideology is then reinforced by Authority and Tenacity. ...and
>> the people are lost in terrible violence.
>>
>>
>>
>> What we also may not realize is that tribalism, the idea of 'Us' versus'
>> Them is basic to the human species, since our knowledge base is not innate
>> but is learned socially. So, this social group that holds our knowledge is
>> vital. Its power over us, as an individual, is important. This group is
>> 'the tribe'; we must trust the veracity of their knowledge...and we don't
>> trust other tribes.  So, knowledge/beliefs are held by virtue of Peirce's
>> false methods far more often than they are held by the non-tribal method of
>> science.
>>
>>
>>
>> Edwina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* Jerry LR Chandler <jerry_lr_chand...@me.com>
>>
>> *To:* PEIRCE-L <peirce-l@list.iupui.edu>
>>
>> *Cc:* Ben Novak <trevriz...@gmail.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2015 10:20 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben:
>>
>>
>>
>> Fascinating topic... will attempt to download thesis.
>>
>>
>>
>> from the post by Stephen Jarosek:
>>
>>
>>
>> “Unlike the other forms of logic, abduction is based on instinct and has
>> a power over emotions.”
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this your statement?
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this your belief?
>>
>>
>>
>> In your view, what are the linguistic / rhetorical constraints on this
>> form of logic?
>>
>>
>>
>> In other words, what binds this view of abduction to other forms of logic?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2015, at 9:35 PM, Ben Novak wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Stephen:
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree that the price is outrageously high. Unfortunately, the publisher
>> sets the price, and I have no control over that.   It is my hope that soon
>> the price may come down.....but, again, I cannot fathom the logic of the
>> publisher.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the meantime, the book is available either in your library, or through
>> interlibrary loan.(You may also request your university library or local
>> public library to obtain a copy) You may also check the worldcat to find a
>> library that has it near you.
>>
>>
>>
>> If for any reason there is a shortage of copies of the book through
>> interlibrary loan, you may also request a copy of the text of my original
>> dissertation, which is entitled *The Third Logic: Adolf Hitler and
>> Abductive Logic,* Doctoral Dissertation, The Pennsylvania State
>> University, 1999. Be advised that this version has a host of clerical
>> errors, and is missing the final chapter, which I added to the book version
>> for publication by Lexington.
>>
>>
>>
>> Additionally, I have been advised by someone that a copy of the
>> dissertation is also available somewhere on the internet where
>> dissertations are digitally archived, though I have been unable to locate
>> where exactly this is.
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, I will be glad to send a review copy to anyone who will commit
>> to writing a publishable review of the book for *Transactions* or some
>> other publication.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your interest.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben Novak
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Ben Novak <http://bennovak.net/>*
>>
>> 5129 Taylor Drive, Ave Maria, FL 34142
>>
>> Telephones:
>>
>> Magic Jack: (717) 826-5224 *Best to call and leave messages.*
>>
>> Landline: 239-455-4200 *My brother's main phone line.*
>>
>> Mobile (202) 509-2655* I use this only on trips--and in any event
>> messages arrive days late.*
>>
>> Skype: BenNovak2
>>
>>
>> *"All art is mortal, not merely the individual artifacts, but the arts
>> themselves.* *One day the last portrait of Rembrandt* *and the last bar
>> of Mozart will have ceased to be — though possibly a colored canvas and a
>> sheet of notes may remain — because the last eye and the last ear
>> accessible to their message will have gone." *Oswald Spengler
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Stephen C. Rose <stever...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> A less expensive edition might encourage more to buy it. Especially if
>> they have no budget for such purchases. I am sure such a discussion would
>> be of interest.
>>
>>
>>     Books http://buff.ly/15GfdqU Art: http://buff.ly/1wXAxbl
>>
>> Gifts: http://buff.ly/1wXADj3
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ben Novak <trevriz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Dear Peirce-L members:
>>
>>
>>
>> Please allow me to join Tom Wyrick in accepting the invitation to
>> introduce ourselves.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am rejoining this List for the third time. I first joined in
>> approximately 1999 when I discovered Charles Sanders Peirce as I was
>> writing my Ph.D. dissertation. Peirce's theory of abduction then became a
>> major part of it.  I completed the dissertation and received my Ph.D. from
>> Penn State University in 1999, at the ripe old age of fifty-six. At that
>> time I was a practicing attorney in State College, PA.  I think I recall
>> Jon Awbrey as an active discussant even way back them...
>>
>>
>>
>> Subsequently, I moved to Europe where I taught at various universities in
>> Slovakia, Austria, and Bulgaria.; In about 2006, I rejoined the List and
>> engaged in some very interesting email discussions with, Sami Paavola,
>> among others
>>
>>
>>
>> I am happy to say that in 2014 Lexington Books saw fit to publish my work
>> under the title, *Hitler and Abductive Logic: The Strategy of a Tyrant*.
>> You may find it on Amazon here:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Hitler-Abductive-Logic-Strategy-Tyrant/dp/0739192248
>>
>>
>>
>> The relevance of this work to Peirce-L list members should be obvious
>> from its title: *Hitler and Abductive Logic*. The editorial reviews
>> bring out the Peirce connection even more:
>>
>>
>>
>> *Hitler and Abductive Logic: The Strategy of a Tyrant* is
>> thought-provoking and extremely creative, exploring aspects and influences
>> of Hitler’s formative years that other biographers and historians have not
>> examined to the same degree of detail. The application of the logic of
>> abduction to Hitler’s mental development is fascinating, and clearly no
>> other author has tried to apply Peirce’s description to Hitler in such a
>> way.
>> (Beth A. Griech-Polelle, Bowling Green State University)
>>
>> The amount of literature on Adolf Hitler is astounding. And yet, as Ben
>> Novak demonstrates, historians still have not fully explained how this
>> ill-educated and irrational provincial Austrian actually rose to power in
>> Germany. This work uses the concept of abductive logic both as a means of
>> investigating the mystery of Hitler's rise to power and as a way to
>> understand the mind and character of Hitler. Novak's book, written in an
>> engaging narrative style, offers a compelling argument for a new approach
>> to the mystery of Hitler's rise to power. (Jackson Spielvogel, Pennsylvania
>> State University)
>>
>>
>>
>> In light of some of the recent discussions on applying Peirce's concepts
>> to issues outside of formal academic discussions of logic, many of the
>> current members of the List may find this work of compelling interest in
>> expanding the discussion to wider examples of applications of Peirce's
>> logic.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would be very interested in the reviews of Peirce specialists on the
>> manner in which I apply Peirce's concepts to this subject. Of course, I
>> realize how grotesque, sensitive (and toxic) the subject of Hitler is.
>> However, if Sherlock Holmes and August Dupin are correct that
>>
>>
>>
>> 'The more *outre'* and grotesque an incident is the more carefully it
>> deserves to be examined... (Holmes),
>>
>>
>>
>> 'It appears to me that this mystery is considered insoluble, for the very
>> reason which should cause it to be regarded as easy of solution - I mean
>> for the *outre'* character of its features... (Dupin)
>>
>>
>>
>> ...then the rise of Hitler especially invites the application of their
>> methods, which consist of brilliant applications Peirce's adductive
>> logic---as Umberto Eco and Thomas Sebeok make abundantly clear in *The
>> Sign of Three: Dupin, Holmes, Peirce *(which is a work that also plays a
>> significant role in my book). See:
>>
>>
>> <http://goog_189368004/>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/The-Sign-Three-Advances-Semiotics/dp/0253204879
>>
>>
>>
>> In any event, I will be very happy to discuss this subject and the
>> application of adductive logic with any members of the List who are
>> interested.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben Novak
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Ben Novak <http://bennovak.net/>*
>>
>> 5129 Taylor Drive, Ave Maria, FL 34142
>>
>> Telephones:
>>
>> Magic Jack: (717) 826-5224 *Best to call and leave messages.*
>>
>> Landline: 239-455-4200 *My brother's main phone line.*
>>
>> Mobile (202) 509-2655* I use this only on trips--and in any event
>> messages arrive days late.*
>>
>> Skype: BenNovak2
>>
>>
>> *"All art is mortal, not merely the individual artifacts, but the arts
>> themselves.* *One day the last portrait of Rembrandt* *and the last bar
>> of Mozart will have ceased to be — though possibly a colored canvas and a
>> sheet of notes may remain — because the last eye and the last ear
>> accessible to their message will have gone." *Oswald Spengler
>>
>>
>>
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