Jeff, List: I am still fairly new to Peirce's thought, but decided to jump in with what I hope is a simple correction/clarification here.
JD: The reason I ask is that, when we move to the larger 66-fold classification, Peirce characterizes the division between icon, index and symbol in terms of the relation between sign and dynamical interpretant. JS: No, icon/index/symbol actually corresponds to the relation between sign and dynamical OBJECT. The relation between sign and dynamical INTERPRETANT is divided into suggestive/imperative/indicative, although earlier Peirce characterized it as presented/urged/submitted; Short has advocated maintaining the latter terminology as more helpfully descriptive. So a qualisign is ALWAYS suggestive or presented. JD: In the same system, he classifies the division between rheme, dicisign and argument in terms of the relation between sign and final interpretant. With these divisions in mind, what should we say about the relation between the qualisign and the object considered simply as an object of thought (i.e., an immediate object)? The term "icon" doesn't appear to be a classification that applies to this kind of relation. Similarly, what should we say about the relation between the qualisign and the immediate interpretant? The term "rheme" doesn't appear to apply to this kind of relation. JS: Peirce did not propose separate trichotomies for the relations between sign and immediate object or between sign and immediate interpretant, presumably because both of those are INTERNAL to the sign. The division for the immediate object itself is descriptive/designative/copulative (with some other terminological varations), and that for the immediate interpretant itself is hypothetic/categorical/relative (earlier feelings/experiences/thoughts). A qualisign can have an immediate object in any of the three modes, but its immediate interpretant is always hypothetic (or feelings). Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
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