List,

As a test, I have just sent a message to the Sadhu Sanga Google Group
requesting that they look into the matter of the automatic forwarding of
messages sent to their group to peirce-l. Apparently I too have been
unknowingly subscribed to that list as my message immediately went through
as far as I can tell. If any peirce-l member on that list has the address
of their webmaster, please kindly send it to Ben or me.

Best,

Gary R


[image: Gary Richmond]

*Gary Richmond*
*Philosophy and Critical Thinking*
*Communication Studies*
*LaGuardia College of the City University of New York*
*C 745*
*718 482-5690*

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Stephen Jarosek <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I noticed at the time that “odd” things were happening (with complaints
> from annoyed recipients) and double-checked then to make sure that I was
> not bcc-ing anyone unintentionally. I just now went through again, and
> confirm that, as far as I am aware, I have not included anyone in a bcc.
>
>
>
> *From:* Benjamin Udell [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 February 2016 7:15 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [PEIRCE-L] Messages that seem bcc'd to peirce-l via Online
> Sadhu Sanga
>
>
>
> Søren, Stephen J., list,
>
> Søren, Stephen J., if you will confirm that you don't think that you're
> doing something in your own email programs to bcc peirce-l, then we will
> contact the owners of Sadhu Sanga and ask them about this situation.
>
> Here's a sample of the messages that seem bcc'd to peirce-l as if by
> peirce-listers posting to Sadhu Sanga
>
> 12/25/2015 Søren
> https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2015-12/msg00252.html
> 12/28/2015 Stephen J.
> https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2015-12/msg00262.html
> 12/29/2015 Stephen J.
> https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2015-12/msg00273.html
> 12/29/2015 Søren
> https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2015-12/msg00326.html
>
> Here's the one in response to Mark Iosim where, if you scroll down, you
> find Iosim saying that he doesn't know how he ended up on the Sadhu Sanga
> list.
> 1/9/2016 Stephen J.
> https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2016-01/msg00034.html
>
> Best, Ben
>
> On 2/2/2016 12:14 PM, Benjamin Udell wrote:
>
> Soren, Gary R., Stephen J., list,
>
> The situation seems more complicated than I thought. I find that some of
> Stephen Jarosek's posts to Sadhu Sanga seem as if bcc'd to peirce-l. I
> doubt that both Soren and Stephen J. are doing it either accidentally by
> their own actions or on purpose.
>
> At Sadhu Sanga, a person named Mark Iosim, to whom Stephen J. (in a
> message seemingly bcc'd to peirce-l) was replying at Sadhu Sanga, wrote, "I
> do not know how I ended up on this mailing list," i.e., Sadhu Sanga. Back
> in Dec 2015 I thought (in viewing my online spam folder) that somebody had
> subscribed me to Sadhu Sanga, so I sent an unsubscribe message at that time.
>
> It's as if Sadhu Sanga itself has arranged for messages from
> peirce-listers on Sadhu Sanga to be automatically bcc'd as if by the given
> peirce-lister to peirce-l (it would have to be that way, since Sadhu Sanga
> itself is not subscribed to peirce-l). We may need to take this up with the
> proprietor of the Sadhu Sanga list.
>
> Best, Ben
>
> On 2/2/2016 11:45 AM, Gary Richmond wrote:
>
> Soren,
>
>
>
> Did you see this message from Ben? Are you accidentally Bccing peirce-l?
> If you're not certain, would you check with a tech person to see that you
> are inadvertently copying these posts to peirce-l
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Gary Richmond
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gary Richmond*
>
> *Philosophy and Critical Thinking*
>
> *Communication Studies*
>
> *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York*
>
> *C 745*
>
> *718 482-5690 <718%20482-5690>*
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Benjamin Udell* <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: [PEIRCE-L] SV: SV: SV: SV: SV: [Sadhu Sanga] Paper
> Refuting Darwinism Published in Journal 'Communicative & Integrative
> Biology'
> To: [email protected]
>
> Edwina, list,
>
> IUPUI's technical person told me that Sadhu Sanga is not currently
> subscribed to peirce-l, at least not by its email address
> [email protected] or something like it. I have checked
> and seen that new messages have appeared at Sadhu Sanga that have not
> appeared at peirce-l. Maybe somebody subscribed then unsubscribed Sadhu
> Sanga to peirce-l.
>
> Your guess that something in the comments from Sadhu Sanga was activating
> the spam filters appears to have worked, since your message got through
> when you re-sent it after removing much of the comments from Sadhu Sanga. I
> noticed that somebody's signature often used there contains image links
> etc., something there must bother the spam filters.
>
> Best, Ben
>
> On 2/2/2016 10:09 AM, Edwina Taborsky wrote:
>
> I don't know if this post will get through; my server notified me that it
> was spam. So, I'm removing much of the comments from sadhu sanga...Again,
> this post didn't come from the Peirce-L site nor from Soren. It came from
> the Sadhu Sanga site  - and I don't think the Peirce-L site should be an
> appendage of that site.
>
> Edwina
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Edwina Taborsky <[email protected]>
> *To:* Søren Brier <[email protected]> ; [email protected]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 10:02 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] SV: SV: SV: SV: SV: [Sadhu Sanga] Paper
> Refuting Darwinism Published in Journal 'Communicative & Integrative
> Biology'
>
>
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