Stephen R., Stephen J., List:

SCR:  There is neither a reference to imitation nor mimesis in CP.


Actually, there is.

CSP:  Cannot a man act under the influence of a vague personification of
the community and yet according to a general rule of conduct? Certainly: he
so acts when he conforms to custom. Only if it is mere custom and not law,
it is not a case of obedience, but of *conformity to norm*, or exemplar. (I
never use the word *norm *in the sense of a precept, but only in that of a
pattern which is copied, this being the original metaphor.) ... Conformity
to a norm may take place by an immediate impulse. It then becomes
instinctive imitation. But here the man does not vaguely personify the
community, but puts himself in the shoes of another person, as we say. (CP
1.586; c. 1903)


Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Stephen Jarosek <sjaro...@iinet.net.au>
wrote:

> >” There is neither a reference to imitation nor mimesis in CP. I am a
> bit relieved.”
>
> Stephen, I regard Peirce as the Isaac Newton of mind science (that’s a
> compliment). However… to really test one’s theory of Mind, one needs to
> test their firstness. And to do this, one needs to immerse themselves into
> culturally alien contexts, and then observe how their motivations change
> with said re-immersion. I mean, a lifestyle change. Up and relocate, maybe
> speak a new language. And that means incorporating the assumptions of your
> new locale, tune into the narratives of your new surroundings… i.e.,
> imitation. You need to *become* the people that you want to understand.
> You need to imitate them. It’s the difference between theory and practice.
> That’s why an academic focus on theory alone is never enough. You need to
> become amazed at how your motivations have changed with your re-immersions.
> That’s why the importance of imitation can never be appreciated when
> confined to within a single academic or cultural context alone… it is
> perceived as “real” because its core narratives are never questioned, even
> when you think you are questioning them… how can you question a narrative
> while using the very narrative that you are questioning? You can’t question
> your culture’s assumptions from an armchair. You will never be amazed
> seated in an armchair.
>
> sj
>
>
>
> *From:* Stephen Curtiss Rose [mailto:stever...@gmail.com
> <stever...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 9, 2018 1:05 PM
> *To:* Stephen Jarosek; Peirce List
> *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Nurture and imitation as pragmatism
>
>
>
> There is neither a reference to imitation nor mimesis in CP. I am a bit
> relieved.
>
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