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I made the decision, since your very public post that you considered me either [or both] too stubborn and/or too stupid to discuss Peirce with you [-which actually means, to accept Your Opinion as The Right One] - that I would no longer discuss anything with you. I don't need to be told, again, that I am either too stubborn or too stupid for a discussion. Edwina On Fri 16/08/19 6:48 PM , Jon Alan Schmidt jonalanschm...@gmail.com sent: Edwina, List: ET: I follow Peirce's outline which puts 3ns as the development of laws ... There is much more to 3ns than "the development of laws." ET: ... and such laws develop afterwards, as matter develops. Not before. Physical laws govern matter and developed from the psychical law (habit) of mind. ET: His own outline of the origin are that first - is 1ns, then 2nd, then 3ns. Indeed, for each actualization of a possibility, 1ns is temporally primordial (from the beginning) in the sequence of events. ET: I don't see any reference to a pre-existent [and it would have to be pre-existent] continuum of 3ns. Existence is 2ns, but 3ns is logically primordial (basic and fundamental) in the constitution of being. Without a blackboard, there can be no chalk marks. As Gary R. said, you disagree, and nothing we can say here is likely to change your mind. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USAProfessional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Laymanwww.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt [1] - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt [2] On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 5:11 PM Edwina Taborsky wrote: Gary R, list I think that Peirce's cosmological outlines and references to 'nothing' - both in 1.412 and 6.215 and on - are not the 'nothing of death/negation' - but, this still doesn't, to me, set up any suggestion of a primordial 3ns. I follow Peirce's outline which puts 3ns as the development of laws - and such laws develop afterwards, as matter develops. Not before. The laws are not primordial and I think Peirce has said that often enough. His own outline of the origin are that first - is 1ns, then 2nd, then 3ns. I don't see any reference to a pre-existent [and it would have to be pre-existent] 'continuum of 3ns. That is - you say that the secondary literature posits a primary 3ns - but I don't see this in Peirce. And on another issue - yes, it's interesting - there is scientific discussion over whether a Big Bang was the origin or not, but that's not relevant here, I think. Edwina Links: ------ [1] http://www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt [2] http://twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt [3] http://webmail.primus.ca/javascript:top.opencompose(\'tabor...@primus.ca\',\'\',\'\',\'\')
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