FYI —

“Every unicorn 🦄 is pink” is true.

Jon

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> On May 19, 2021, at 5:52 PM, Helmut Raulien <h.raul...@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> List,
>  
> Does anybody know an example which justifies intuitionistic logic, so in 
> which classical logic fails? I think Jon, A.S., you once gave me the 
> following example:
>  
> "Every unicorn is pink" is false, but "There is no unicorn that is not pink" 
> is true.
>  
> "Every unicorn is pink" is false, because it means "If it is a unicorn, then 
> it is pink", and "If it is a unicorn" implies, that unicorns exist. So it is 
> equal with "Unicorns exist, and if it is a unicorn, it is pink". Because 
> unicorns donot exist, the proposition is false.
>  
> "There is no unicorn that is not pink" sounds true, because there are no 
> unicorns at all, so there are no non-pink unicorns too. But if it would be 
> so, that this form of proposition too implied the existence-claim, it would 
> be false as well. Is that so? Is in classical logic "There is no unicorn that 
> is not pink" equal with "Unicorns exist, and there is no unicorn that is not 
> pink"?
>  
> This might be so e.g. due to the fact alone, that the term "Unicorn" has been 
> mentioned. For EGs, it would mean, that every term written in any place is a 
> possible too in the blank sheet. Meaning, that it generally exists. Otherwise 
> it would not signify anything, it would e.g. be like "NOT &/(", senseless. 
> But this would mean, that the term "existential" in "Existential Graphs" 
> means, that only existing things are allowed in them.
>  
> Another way to classically synchronize the two propositions might be to say, 
> that if a term signifies a nonexistent thing, it automatically signifies its 
> phantasy-concept instead. Then "Every unicorn is pink" is false, because in 
> some animated movie by Disney occurs a white unicorn. "There is no unicorn 
> that is not pink" then is false for the same reason. This explanation is 
> somewhat smoother than the first, but requires this said automatism: If A 
> does not physically exist, then A is the existing concept of A.
>  
> Best
> Helmut
>  
>  
> 19. Mai 2021 um 06:58 Uhr
>  "John F. Sowa" <s...@bestweb.net>
> wrote:
> Gary R,
> 
> I'm glad you asked.
> 
> GR> Please explain how this "blocks the way of inquiry" for folk like me who 
> are apparently radically deficient in mathematics and logic so simply can't 
> see it as such. 
> 
> Intuitionistic logic is a restriction on the permissible rules of inference. 
> That makes it impossible to use many widely accepted theories of mathematics 
> -- among them, the theory that there are hierarchies of infinities. 
>  
> Peirce was one of the mathematicians who discovered a proof of that point 
> independently of Georg Cantor.  And it's the foundation for his theory of 
> continuity -- which Abraham Robinson proved was consistent in 1960.
> In applications to science and engineering, especially computer science, 
> nobody uses intuitionistic logic. The reason why is that it "blocks the way" 
> of using the most convenient, efficient, and flexible methods of reasoning. 
> 
> The mainstream mathematicians don't stop intuitionists from developing their 
> own pet theories.  They just ignore them.
> 
> John
> 
>  
> 
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