Hi Jerry,

I remember that ... because I was not familiar with the term “wind-egg”
and had to look it up ... one meaning being an unfertilized egg ... and
though I thought that just a little bit snarky at the time, I know you
meant it in the nicest possible way ... and now I'd have say it makes
a kind of sense if I view in light of my usual first approximation to
Peirce's Calcification Of Sciences (COS), to wit, the following Fig.

Peirce Syllabus
https://inquiryintoinquiry.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/peirce-syllabus.jpg

For without the fertilization by Mathematics
the Oöscience of Phaneroscopy will forever
remain an armchair wannabe science.

Cheers,

Jon

On 9/16/2021 1:55 PM, Jerry Rhee wrote:
Dear Gary, list:


Since the slow read has concluded,

I would like to recall a letter sent immediately after its initial announcement

(on June 11).


“My apologies for skipping to the end but it was always my assumption that

Phaneroscopy was a wind-egg, not a science-egg.

That is, it appears, then, that Peirce always presented Phaneroscopy

merely as an aggregate of separate doctrines (fragmentarily)

and not systematically- as a true science.”


So now, what is your judgment?   What is the verdict?


*Phaneroscopy, science-egg or wind-egg?*


___


If, as Peirce says

*  Phaneroscopy is still in the condition of a science-egg, *

*  hardly any details of it being as yet distinguishable, *

*  though enough to assure the student of it that … *

   *it **surely** will in the future become a strong and beneficent science.*
(R 645:2, 1909)


And if, as Gary says

*  In these letters (between Peirce and William James, 1898) *

*  Peirce asserts his allegiance to what he calls *

*  “conservative sentimentalism” or “sentimental conservatism.” *

*  The basic idea is that in the conduct of everyday social life, *

*  when it comes to making crucial decisions, *

*  we ought to trust our instinctive or “gut feelings” *

*  rather than our capacity for reasoning or our philosophical theories..*


I hardly see any reason why we ought to take him seriously.

That is, it is *impossible* for me to believe a man,

who puts himself forth genuinely *as logician*,

that he would *prescribe* such an immature belief.


That he *has* the belief is not surprising, but there is something *obvious*
that is missing here.

For have you forgotten the old decree?


   Believest thou that he there spake the truth?

   Why dost thou believe it?"


   The disciple answered: "I believe in Zarathustra."


   But Zarathustra shook his head and smiled.

   -- Belief doth not sanctify me, said he,

   least of all the belief in myself.


   But granting that some one did say in all seriousness

   that the poets lie too much: he was right

      —WE do lie too much.


Moreover, when Peirce admits


*in all the works on pedagogy that ever I read,- and they have been many,
big, and heavy,-*

*I don’t remember that any one has advocated a system of teaching by
practical jokes..  *

*That however, describes the method of our great teacher, Experience.  She
says*


*            Open your mouth and shut your eyes*

*            And I’ll give you something to make you wise;*


Would you be prepared to do this action because Peirce said “*Believe me!*’?


Would you want Experience to keep her promise-

to take her pay in the fun of tormenting us?


I mean, *what was our experience during this slow read*?


As to what is missing,

*      A Little Known Argument for the Being of God*

*      A Neglected Argument for the Reality of God*


That. is (~CP 2.116),

*We know **already** how we must proceed *

in order to determine* what the meaning of the question is. *

*Our sole guide must be the consideration of the use to which the answer is
to be put  *

*--not necessarily the practical application, *

*but in what way it is to subserve the summum bonum. *


*It is absolutely impossible that the word "Being" should bear any meaning
whatever *

*except with reference to the summum bonum..*


*We sketch out the method and apply it to a few metaphysical conceptions,
such as Reality, Necessity, etc.    *

*(And then CP 5.53)..*

*Everybody** should be competent to answer that of himself..*


(I would recommend looking up this section, “Everybody..”, on page 161,

edited by Turrisi in *Method of Right Thinking.  *

There is an interesting framing there in bold, which is not present in
Collected Papers.  Hope that helps!)


With best wishes,
Jerry R

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 8:08 AM <g...@gnusystems.ca> wrote:

Continuing our slow read on phaneroscopy, here is the next slide of André
De Tienne’s slideshow posted on the Peirce Edition Project (iupui.edu)
<https://peirce.iupui.edu/publications.html#presentations> site. *Conclusion:
Phaneroscopy as a “science-egg”*

Gary f.





Text:

Phaneroscopy is still in the condition of a science-egg, hardly any
details of it being as yet distinguishable, though enough to assure the
student of it that ... it surely will in the future become a strong and
beneficent science. (R 645:2, 1909)

We need to remember that, for Peirce, sciences are living activities
conducted by living communities of inquirers. Sciences get born and die.
Their classification is actually akin to a natural classification. In many
ways Peirces classification is phylogenetic in character.

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