Hi Jerry,
I remember that ... because I was not familiar with the term “wind-egg”
and had to look it up ... one meaning being an unfertilized egg ... and
though I thought that just a little bit snarky at the time, I know you
meant it in the nicest possible way ... and now I'd have say it makes
a kind of sense if I view in light of my usual first approximation to
Peirce's Calcification Of Sciences (COS), to wit, the following Fig.
Peirce Syllabus
https://inquiryintoinquiry.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/peirce-syllabus.jpg
For without the fertilization by Mathematics
the Oöscience of Phaneroscopy will forever
remain an armchair wannabe science.
Cheers,
Jon
On 9/16/2021 1:55 PM, Jerry Rhee wrote:
Dear Gary, list:
Since the slow read has concluded,
I would like to recall a letter sent immediately after its initial announcement
(on June 11).
“My apologies for skipping to the end but it was always my assumption that
Phaneroscopy was a wind-egg, not a science-egg.
That is, it appears, then, that Peirce always presented Phaneroscopy
merely as an aggregate of separate doctrines (fragmentarily)
and not systematically- as a true science.”
So now, what is your judgment? What is the verdict?
*Phaneroscopy, science-egg or wind-egg?*
___
If, as Peirce says
* Phaneroscopy is still in the condition of a science-egg, *
* hardly any details of it being as yet distinguishable, *
* though enough to assure the student of it that … *
*it **surely** will in the future become a strong and beneficent science.*
(R 645:2, 1909)
And if, as Gary says
* In these letters (between Peirce and William James, 1898) *
* Peirce asserts his allegiance to what he calls *
* “conservative sentimentalism” or “sentimental conservatism.” *
* The basic idea is that in the conduct of everyday social life, *
* when it comes to making crucial decisions, *
* we ought to trust our instinctive or “gut feelings” *
* rather than our capacity for reasoning or our philosophical theories..*
I hardly see any reason why we ought to take him seriously.
That is, it is *impossible* for me to believe a man,
who puts himself forth genuinely *as logician*,
that he would *prescribe* such an immature belief.
That he *has* the belief is not surprising, but there is something *obvious*
that is missing here.
For have you forgotten the old decree?
Believest thou that he there spake the truth?
Why dost thou believe it?"
The disciple answered: "I believe in Zarathustra."
But Zarathustra shook his head and smiled.
-- Belief doth not sanctify me, said he,
least of all the belief in myself.
But granting that some one did say in all seriousness
that the poets lie too much: he was right
—WE do lie too much.
Moreover, when Peirce admits
*in all the works on pedagogy that ever I read,- and they have been many,
big, and heavy,-*
*I don’t remember that any one has advocated a system of teaching by
practical jokes.. *
*That however, describes the method of our great teacher, Experience. She
says*
* Open your mouth and shut your eyes*
* And I’ll give you something to make you wise;*
Would you be prepared to do this action because Peirce said “*Believe me!*’?
Would you want Experience to keep her promise-
to take her pay in the fun of tormenting us?
I mean, *what was our experience during this slow read*?
As to what is missing,
* A Little Known Argument for the Being of God*
* A Neglected Argument for the Reality of God*
That. is (~CP 2.116),
*We know **already** how we must proceed *
in order to determine* what the meaning of the question is. *
*Our sole guide must be the consideration of the use to which the answer is
to be put *
*--not necessarily the practical application, *
*but in what way it is to subserve the summum bonum. *
*It is absolutely impossible that the word "Being" should bear any meaning
whatever *
*except with reference to the summum bonum..*
*We sketch out the method and apply it to a few metaphysical conceptions,
such as Reality, Necessity, etc. *
*(And then CP 5.53)..*
*Everybody** should be competent to answer that of himself..*
(I would recommend looking up this section, “Everybody..”, on page 161,
edited by Turrisi in *Method of Right Thinking. *
There is an interesting framing there in bold, which is not present in
Collected Papers. Hope that helps!)
With best wishes,
Jerry R
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 8:08 AM <g...@gnusystems.ca> wrote:
Continuing our slow read on phaneroscopy, here is the next slide of André
De Tienne’s slideshow posted on the Peirce Edition Project (iupui.edu)
<https://peirce.iupui.edu/publications.html#presentations> site. *Conclusion:
Phaneroscopy as a “science-egg”*
Gary f.
Text:
Phaneroscopy is still in the condition of a science-egg, hardly any
details of it being as yet distinguishable, though enough to assure the
student of it that ... it surely will in the future become a strong and
beneficent science. (R 645:2, 1909)
We need to remember that, for Peirce, sciences are living activities
conducted by living communities of inquirers. Sciences get born and die.
Their classification is actually akin to a natural classification. In many
ways Peirces classification is phylogenetic in character.
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