Still better than calumny EVD > On Oct 7, 2021, at 8:08 AM, robert marty <robert.mart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It was not a joke... I myself committed a lapsus calami by writing "calmi"! > Excuse me ... > RM > Honorary Professor ; PhD Mathematics ; PhD Philosophy > fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Marty > <https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Marty> > https://martyrobert.academia.edu/ <https://martyrobert.academia.edu/> > > > > Le jeu. 7 oct. 2021 à 17:00, robert marty <robert.mart...@gmail.com > <mailto:robert.mart...@gmail.com>> a écrit : > Margaretha, Edwina, List > > Edwina is absolutely right but she committed a small lapsus clami .... it is > not 1.327 but 1.347 that should be read and even 1.346 too... > > "Peirce: CP 1.346 Cross-Ref:†† 346. The other premiss of the argument that > genuine triadic relations can never be built of dyadic relations and of > qualities is easily shown. In existential graphs, a spot with one tail -- X > represents a quality, a spot with two tails -- R -- a dyadic relation.†1 > Joining the ends of two tails is also a dyadic relation. But you can never by > such joining make a graph with three tails. You may think that a node > connecting three lines of identity Y is not a triadic idea. But analysis will > show that it is so. I see a man on Monday. On Tuesday I see a man, and I > exclaim, "Why, that is the very man I saw on Monday." We may say, with > sufficient accuracy, that I directly experienced the identity. On Wednesday I > see a man and I say, "That is the same man I saw on Tuesday, and consequently > is the same I saw on Monday." There is a recognition of triadic identity; but > it is only brought about as a conclusion from two premisses, which is itself > a triadic relation. If I see two men at once, I cannot by any such direct > experience identify both of them with a man I saw before. I can only identify > them if I regard them, not as the very same, but as two different > manifestations of the same man. But the idea of manifestation is the idea of > a sign. Now a sign is something, A, which denotes some fact or object, B, to > some interpretant thought, [emphasize mine] > > C. Peirce: CP 1.347 Cross-Ref:†† 347. It is interesting to remark that while > a graph with three tails cannot be made out of graphs each with two or one > tail, yet combinations of graphs of three tails each will suffice to build > graphs with every higher number of tails. > <image.png> > > And analysis will show that every relation which is tetradic, pentadic, or > of any greater number of correlates is nothing but a compound of triadic > relations. It is therefore not surprising to find that beyond the three > elements of Firstness, Secondness, and Thirdness, there is nothing else to be > found in the phenomenon " > > Best regards, > Robert Marty > > Honorary Professor ; PhD Mathematics ; PhD Philosophy > fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Marty > <https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Marty> > https://martyrobert.academia.edu/ <https://martyrobert.academia.edu/> > > > > Le jeu. 7 oct. 2021 à 16:11, Edwina Taborsky <tabor...@primus.ca > <mailto:tabor...@primus.ca>> a écrit : > Margaretha > > 1] I believe I sent you a post, just after your original post to this list, > with a comment that the Peircean triad doesn't function as a triangle but in > a Y shape. > > That is, the three nodal sites of Object-Representamen/Sign - Interpretant do > not interact with each other in a triangle format, which is closed, but > within that Y shape, where the three interactions are OPEN and enable > networking with other triads. > > I think this is a vital point. Peirce himself showed the graph of these Y > shapes connecting with each other [1.327]. > > The thing about Peirce is that his analytic framework, made up of that > triadic Y interaction, which enables connections with other 'Y's...plus his > three modal categories of Firstness, Secondness and Thirdness [chance, > immediate physical connection and reason-habits] together enable a complex > adaptive system that has the capacity to self-organize and evolve. > > 2] I have used Popper to compare with Peirce - I think that Popper's Third > World has strong comparisons with Peirce's Thirdness….he even sets it up as > analogous with the biological realm of knowledge. [See his Objective > Knowledge]. And I think that Popper's emphasis on openness, as in The Open > Society, where he rejects historicism and destiny for an essentially open and > unknown complexity of interactions -- is similar to Peirce. That is, Popper > accepts chance and reason as correlates [Firstness and Thirdness] in the > development of a society. > > Edwina > > > > On Thu 07/10/21 9:48 AM , Margaretha Hendrickx mahe3...@gmail.com > <mailto:mahe3...@gmail.com> sent: > > List, > > How many of you are working on -- or interested in -- studying the connection > between the philosophy of Karl Popper and Charles Peirce? > > So far, I know of only one philosopher who has worked on this intersection, > the French philosopher, Christiane Chauvire. But there must be others. > > As a footnote, my professional background is in strategic management, not in > philosophy. I am interested in Peircean philosophy, and especially his work > on semiotic triangles, given that I believe it provides some key answers to > epistemological problems in management research. > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. 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