John, List:

JFS: It's not clear which "55 pages" Peirce was counting.


On the contrary, here is the relevant text in R L376.

CSP: An account of slightly further development of it was given in the
*Monist *of Oct. 1906. In this I made an attempt to make the syntax cover
Modals; but it has not satisfied me. The description was, on the whole, as
bad as it well could be, in great contrast to the one Dr. Carus rejected.
For although the system itself is marked by extreme simplicity, the
description fills 55 pages, and defines over a hundred technical terms
applying to it.


Peirce cites an "account" of EGs that appeared "in the *Monist* of Oct.
1906," then refers to "the description" twice, calling it "as bad as it
well could be" and saying that it "fills 55 pages." He is clearly talking
about "Prolegomena to an Apology for Pragmaticism" as originally published
in *The Monist* (vol. 16, no. 4, Oct. 1906, pp. 492-546 = 55 pages).
Moreover, for the forthcoming volume 3/1 of *Logic of the Future*,
Ahti-Veikko Pietarinen has compiled an "Index to 'Prolegomena'" from R 292,
R 1256, and R 1632, all dated 1910 or later. Sure enough, it lists "over a
hundred technical terms" that are employed in that article.

JFS: Following are excerpts from the Prolegomena prior to the
specifications of tinctured EGs. They have strong similarities to related
material in L376:


I agree--they demonstrate that the "many papers" concept was not an
innovation in 1911, and thus not unique to the new Delta part, just as I
have been saying all along. It was already a well-established aspect of EGs
as one of "the Conventions, the Rules, and the working of the System" that
constitute "a cross division" orthogonal to the division into the Alpha,
Beta, and Gamma parts--hence, applicable to *all* of them.

JFS: an organization of the papers according to Cayley's trees, which
Risteen had studied. (See the references to Risteen in EP2.)


There are no "references to Risteen in EP2"--his name is not in the index,
and a search turns up zero mentions. However, Nathan Houser's introduction
to volume 8 of the *Writings *includes a paragraph about how "Peirce asked
Risteen to add 'trees' to the list of mathematical subjects he was
gathering information on for Peirce’s dictionary work" (W 8:xlviii-xlix).
Nevertheless, this was in 1891--two full decades before Peirce wrote the
letter to Risteen that we have been discussing, which itself says nothing
whatsoever about Cayley's trees, nor any other particular "organization of
the papers."

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 4:33 PM John F Sowa <s...@bestweb.net> wrote:

> Jon, List,
>
> It's not clear which "55 pages" Peirce was counting.  It may have been his
> own MS.  As for L477, he was probably recalling words that he remembered
> from the letter to Risteen.   In L477, he only mentioned one sentence on
> that topic:  "It cost me the trouble of my nonsensical 'tinctures' and
> heraldry."  The more detailed comments in L376 said that the "cuts" with
> their recto/verso implications were responsible.  But the word 'tinctured'
> was prominent in the name of those EGs, and that is what Peirce (and his
> readers) remembered.
>
> For the Gamma graphs of 1903, I commented on the absence of any later
> use.  I found a reference from 1906 that explains why Peirce never  again
> used the Gamma graphs:
>
> In my former exposition of Existential Graphs, I said that there must be a
> department of the System which I called the Gamma part into which I was as
> yet able to gain mere glimpses, sufficient only to show me its reality, and
> to rouse my intense curiosity, without giving me any real insight into it.
> The conception of the System which I have just set forth is a very recent
> discovery.  I have not had time as yet to trace out all its consequences.
> But it is already plain that, in at least three places, it lifts the veil
> from the Gamma part of the system.
>
> The new discovery, which sheds such a light is simply that, as the main
> part of the sheet represents existence or actuality, so the area within a
> cut, that is, the verso of the sheet, represents a kind of possibility.
>  (R490, April 1906; CP 4.576)
>
> The first paragraph above explains why Peirce never used his Gamma graphs
> of 1906.  It also shows that he was exploring cuts with recto/verso
> options, which he continued to use until R669 (May 1911).  He finally
> abandoned recto/verso cuts in R670 (June 1911).
>
> But the text of the Prolegomena (other than the definition of the EGs)
> helps to explain related text in L376.  Following are excerpts from the
> Prolegomena prior to the specifications of tinctured EGs.  They have strong
> similarities to related material in L376:
>
> Convention the First:  Of the Agency of the Scripture.  We are to imagine
> that two parties* collaborate in composing a Pheme, and in operating upon
> this so as to develop a Delome.  [Provision shall be made in these
> Conventions for expressing every kind of Pheme as a Graph; and it is
> certain that the Method could be applied to aid the development and
> analysis of any kind of purposive thought.  But hitherto no Graphs have
> been studied but such as are Propositions; so that, in the resulting
> uncertainty as to what modifications of the Conventions might be required
> for other applications, they have mostly been here stated as if they were
> only applicable to the expression of Phemes and the working out of
> necessary conclusions.
>
> The two collaborating parties shall be called the Graphist and the
> Interpreter.  The Graphist shall responsibly scribe each original Graph and
> each addition to it, with the proper indications of the Modality to be
> attached to it the relative Quality* of its position, and every particular
> of its dependence on and connections with other graphs.  The Interpreter is
> to make such erasures and insertions of the Graph delivered to him by the
> Graphist as may accord with the "General Permissions" deducible from the
> Conventions and with his own purposes.
> Convention the Second:  Of the Matter of the Scripture, and the Modality
> of the Phemes expressed.  The matter which the Graph-instances are to
> determine, and which thereby becomes the Quasi-mind in which the Graphist
> and Interpreter are at one.  . .
>
> After a complex specification of the tinctured EGs, the document ends:
>
> In my next paper, the utility of this diagrammatization of thought in the
> discussion of the truth of Pragmaticism shall be made to appear.
>
> There was no "next paper" for Carus.  But these topics are related to the
> text of L376.  The critical issues are  (a) A phemic sheet that consists of
> multiple papers; (b) A dialog between an utterer and an interpreter; (c)
> Options for each of them to designate the status (modality, time,
> intention) of any paper, whether indicated by a tincture or by postulates
> in the margin or by some other method; (c) an organization of the papers
> according to Cayley's trees, which Risteen had studied.  (See the
> references to Risteen in EP2.)
>
> If Peirce had been healthy for the following six weeks, a continuation
> along these lines could have gone a long way toward establishing that proof
> of pragmaticism he had been working on for the last decade of his life.
>
> John
>
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